Film Club: Are you a pragmatic vet nurse?

RE: Film Club: Are you a pragmatic vet nurse?

Arlo Guthrie — Mon, 10 Feb 2025 09:37:12 GMT

[quote userid="3946" url="~/f/vetnurse-film-club/32565/film-club-are-you-a-pragmatic-vet-nurse/179098#179098"]I concern more over what the clients understand of options and cost than the buzz words used.[/quote]

Absolutely 100% agree with you, and it's kind of my point ... which is that if the profession gets all tied up in knots over buzzwords, the danger is both that the public doesn't understand them and also that the profession loses focus, which should be on exactly what you say: making sure owners understand about the options and costs.

And I would add ... the profession having a greater focus on keeping costs down (for example by recommending treatment that is more financially in keeping with the species being treated).

[quote userid="3946" url="~/f/vetnurse-film-club/32565/film-club-are-you-a-pragmatic-vet-nurse/179098#179098"]If the public also received the same from the NHS, a 'what it would have cost you', they would know what the 'hidden' costs were there too and be able to appreciate and understand more - I would hope anyway. [/quote]

I agree, people should have a much better understanding of the value of what they get from the NHS.

RE: Film Club: Are you a pragmatic vet nurse?

stacey bullock — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 18:25:16 GMT

I concern more over what the clients understand of options and cost than the buzz words used. I agree, more transparent costs and itemised billing would be a good start. If the public also received the same from the NHS, a 'what it would have cost you', they would know what the 'hidden' costs were there too and be able to appreciate and understand more - I would hope anyway.

RE: Film Club: Are you a pragmatic vet nurse?

Arlo Guthrie — Wed, 05 Feb 2025 10:24:52 GMT

stacey bullock

[quote userid="3946" url="~/f/vetnurse-film-club/32565/film-club-are-you-a-pragmatic-vet-nurse/179088#179088"]pragmatic and contextual as being part and parcel of the same decision making process[/quote]

I come at this from the perspective of being a communicator (ie journalist / PR) - and I fear that these terms just don't address the real elephant in the room.

The problem is that veterinary care has become too expensive. Who says so? After all, what is wrong with saying pets should be exclusively for rich people who can afford them?

I think we can agree that they bring so many social benefits that there is a strong argument for care remaining affordable.

Both pragmatic and contextual advice are things which vets and nurses have ALWAYS had to offer, but they have taken on a special importance since the CMA investigation and the public reaction to rising costs.

They seem to me to be woolly concepts which have no universal definition. They mean different things to different people. And they don't focus the mind squarely on the real issue here: COST.

So whilst pragmatism and contextualism are both important, for the purposes of responding to the pricing issue, I think we need to be talking about money and cost directly.

RE: Film Club: Are you a pragmatic vet nurse?

stacey bullock — Tue, 04 Feb 2025 20:16:14 GMT

This is a really good read Maximising welfare benefits by contextualising case management - RCVS Knowledge I see pragmatic and contextual as being part and parcel of the same decision making process: sensible, satisfactory 'good enough' and then offering more options with a utilitarianist, consequentialism perspective, fully exploring what is best