Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Steph Phillips — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:42:01 GMT

I agree with Sal... although I can understand why you feel like your qualification is not recognised in your pay. . bit of a toughie!

[quote user="Sal (the 1st) Holesworth VN CMH Chyp (M)PNLP"]the nurse who has been there the longest gets the better wage and it in no way reflects the skills that person may have[/quote]

Thats ture! My hourly rate is the same as the parctice manager and I'm not qualified! - It's purley because I've been in the same practice for nealry 10yrs and - in my boss' words - 'shown dedication'

Don't let this drive a wedge between you and the unqualifed nurse.. hopefully you'll get the wage you deserve. xx

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Sal the 1st — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 17:17:23 GMT

this really isnt that unusual

I have worked at at least 3 places where the reception staff earn more than a qualified nurse - a major national charity where reception and kennel staff with no qualifications have much better chance of earning a decent wage, a large national corporate who also values their reception staff more than their qualified nurses, a small private practice where as a head nurse I was taking home less than the unqualified nursing assistant and working more hours into the bargain!

Not making excuses but in some places the reception staff really do earn their money (esp charity).

Sometimes the discrepancy in hourly rate can come about in the following way - a practice is say offering 10,000 pa for nursing staff and over ie the next few years that is always the rate that is offered , so a nurse who has just started will get the 10k wage the same as one that started a few years earlier but because the 10k wage is subject to an annual review and wage rise the nurse who has been there the longest gets the better wage and it in no way reflects the skills that person may have.

Hope that makes sense been awake since the small hours and it is now catching up with me

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Nick Shackleton — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 16:45:20 GMT

This one of the biggest things that winds me up about vets. Some of them just don't appreciate their nurses! Or maybe they are of the thining 'you do this for the love of the job, not to earn a decent wage"

Personally I think it's unfair that you get paid less than an unqualified nurse, but as someone has already suggested maybe more to do with period that s/he has worked for the current practice.

I have suggested on other threads that nurse wages need to have proper structure such as banding (which the NHS has now got)

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Heidi O'Toole — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 16:33:15 GMT

our receptionists get paid more than the nurses!

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Vicky RVN — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 16:10:55 GMT

[quote user="Katie Murphy RVN"]

My advice - find somewhere to work where they value a qualified nurse and don't allow lay people to do your job!

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I second that!

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Mrs Dot Dot — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 13:27:21 GMT

It's really harsh that you, as a qualified, get paid less or the same, soon to be but if they are adament that they won't increase your wages to more, all you can do is accept it, stay and not dwell on it because you will become very bitter about it or show them what you think and walk with your feet and get another job elsewhere where, hopefully, they appreciate the VN qualification more... chances are that if you walk, it won't make alot of difference to their wages policy but you will feel alot lot better!

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Sally Seddon — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 12:48:11 GMT

i think its probably because she has been there longer than you. Its totally wrong though. I think its nice that they acknowlege how long people have been there but your pay should be way above hers for the pure fact you are qualified.

Im a qualified ANA, ok so its not a rvn level qualification, but i get paid the same as a lady who does admin/auxillary nursing on our place, i find that annoying so can see where your coming from

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

claire simpson — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 12:42:52 GMT

Thanks for your replies,

Yes she has been working there about 2-3 years more than me, but like you say we 'should' be doing completely different jobs legally!

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 12:06:36 GMT

[quote user="Katie Murphy RVN"]

lol Sandra you got there first!!

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Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Katie Murphy RVN — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 11:56:29 GMT

lol Sandra you got there first!!

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Katie Murphy RVN — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 11:55:47 GMT

Technically they can't be doing the same job - because an unqualified person should not be doing any medical procedures or placing catheters etc. Even if they work the same hours... they do not match your skills and qualifications! It doesn't matter how many years experience they have because they are not legally able to do the same job as you.

My advice - find somewhere to work where they value a qualified nurse and don't allow lay people to do your job!

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 11:52:39 GMT

Technically they wont be doing the same job, as they should not be doing any schedule 3 so you can use that as leverage for a pay increase beyond your colleague...... unless of course your practice is breaking the law and allowing this person to perform schedule 3 tasks

Re: Unqualified getting paid more than RVN

Anonymous — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 11:20:10 GMT

Do they work the same hours than you? Are you doing the same job? what is their experience(yrs, work etc)?