Confused???

Re: Confused???

Tracy Windler RVN — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:19:11 GMT

Ooh, forgot, giving medications - this, legally, can only be done by VS, QVN, SVN (supervised), the owner, or member of their household, or someone employed by the owner. Thats very specific and I'm sure a lot of practices break this law (I'm pretty sure I did when I was a "trainee")!

Re: Confused???

Tracy Windler RVN — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:12:32 GMT

My boss and I were discussing this on Friday, so I spent quite a bit of time researching this on the internet. I read through the whole section of the legislation regarding Schedule 3 and it refers to RVN's and LVN's being exempt from some sections of this legislation, if directed by their employer who has the animal under their care (or a Vet authorised by the employer) and what we know about SVN's being able to carry out procedures, under direct guidance of the vet, or a QVN.

But what it does not mention at all, is what procedures they are referring to. They describe Veterinary Treatment, and minor surgery when they talk about what VN's are allowed to do, but they do not mention what specific procedures this covers, neither do the RCVS in their interpretation of this. Unfortunately, this leaves it open to interpretation, and abuse.

I don't know how well we can compare with human medicine, but Phlebotomists and HCA's (no doubt with logged training and assessment, I should imagine!) can take human bloods. Not sure about IV access.

Re: Confused???

Catherine Raymond — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:59:21 GMT

Good luck - even the president of RCVS was unsure of the same topic!![quote user="Karen Skelton RVN"]

i have stook a letter in the post...il post on here what they say, if i get a reply...il bet they are unindated with similar letters, hope they release something

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Re: Confused???

Karen Skelton — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:19:43 GMT

what about monitoring anasthetics, changing drip bags, bandages, removing sutures, checking wounds etc

Re: Confused???

Sal the 1st — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:18:29 GMT

[quote user="Karen Skelton RVN"]

i have stook a letter in the post...il post on here what they say, if i get a reply...il bet they are unindated with similar letters, hope they release something

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Re: Confused???

Karen Skelton — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:16:20 GMT

i have stook a letter in the post...il post on here what they say, if i get a reply...il bet they are unindated with similar letters, hope they release something

Re: Confused???

Nicola Smith — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:13:26 GMT

Basically students registered with RCVS can do things ike place catheters, give meds etc but only under supervision from vet or vn - it is part of their training. unregistered trainees cant, neither can experienced non qualifieds, though very often they do it is actually not allowed!

Re: Confused???

Sal the 1st — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:12:35 GMT

my advice - ask the same question of the RCVS - they make the rules and should be able to give you a definitive answer, that way you wont get varying answers