Crash chart

Re: Crash chart

katieb1979 — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:06:42 GMT

Hi guys, I new to the website!!

We are aftre getting a defib for large dogs and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right directiion??

Thanks katie

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Nick Shackleton — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:43:31 GMT

[quote user="Vicky SVN"]

Nick, i stole your idea of drugs in foam, ours are now in polystyrene, so much better than a whole box! We have glucose in our crash box. It's a tool box which i've put drug dose chart on the inside of the lid, drugs in bottom and etc tubes etc in lift out bit. Much better than our old crash trolley which was all open and collected dust and had far too much stuff in it!

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nice one vicky!

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Vicky RVN — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:42:04 GMT

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Kerry Spain — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:41:34 GMT

Don't worry Nick I'm on it like a car bonnet, I'll get in touch with a couple of peeps tmoz and get them to fax over the drug dosage form which we had at you know where. Like I said it was written by a vet with a cert in VA so it should be cosha but we look through it

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Nick Shackleton — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:27:39 GMT

[quote user="Kerry Haigh RVN A1 Cert SAN MBVNA"]

Hello peeps, could I please have a copy of what ever is going too?

I've just stareted a new place of work and they don't have a crash box. I used to have a fab chart at my last place of work made up by a vet who was a Cert VA holder. If I can get hold of it I will let you all know

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I was gonna do a chart BUT not keen cos its drug dosages. Maybe you could grab an anaesthesia book and discuss the doses wit one of the vets at work??? the prob is most drugs have a dose rang and differ from book to book

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Kerry Spain — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:21:48 GMT

Hello peeps, could I please have a copy of what ever is going too?

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Siobhan Steven — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 03:28:16 GMT

I have PMed you the crash cart list from the Uni. Agree with Nick re preservative free drugs, also some become unstable in plastic (syringe) which is why they are supplied in glass bottles, and some in light, hence the brown bottles. You probably know that anyway

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Nick Shackleton — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:31:03 GMT

Yeah prob a good idea, but remember that once you broach a bottle of glucose it has to be binned after 24hrs as again no preservative!

we had draws on ours:

1st draw: ET Tubes / larygascope / tracyostomy kit and tubes / IV caths

2nd draw: DRUGS

3rd draw: Ambu bag / crash care plan chart / ICU kennel sheets

bottom shelf: DEFIBRILLATOR

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Sophie Bedford RVN CertVNECC — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:46:12 GMT

Cool thanks Nick - I didn't realise that about Adrenaline - will leave it in the vial then as we don't really use it that regularly

The locum vet that 'had a go' what saying we should have glucose in our crash cart - I hadn't heard this, we have most of what you've got above - what are your views on glucose?

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Nick Shackleton — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:30:59 GMT

Adrenaline has not preservative in it so its not a great idea.

here is my wish list as far as drugs go.....

adrenaline, atropine, Lignocaine, Dobutamine, Dopamine, Frusemide, Methylprednisalone, Naloxone, Propranolol, Sodium bicarbonate, atipamezole, Calcium gluconate, manitol

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Sophie Bedford RVN CertVNECC — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 09:38:01 GMT

I was actually just wondering exactly which drugs we needed in the box, we have one set up but got told off by a locum for not having something so just wanted to check what everyone else had in theirs?

In terms of drawing up vs not I was going to draw up adrenaline in 1ml and 2ml syringes as that's what's more likely to be used then everything else just check with vet.

Any ideas?

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Nick Shackleton — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:44:39 GMT

[quote user="Mrs Dot Dot' Tracey Plant RVN MBVNA"]

Hi Nick..... thought you might want to dredge up some furry info instead of human! I was thinking more of a chart with recommneded dose rates for atropine / adrenaline / dopram /lidocaine etc for different weights to refer to in an emergency...................

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Yeah I was considering doing one, but on reflection I'd rather get a vet to check doses etc....

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Mrs Dot Dot — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:41:19 GMT

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Nick Shackleton — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:31:10 GMT

Here's the foam thing we used to use

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Nick Shackleton — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:25:30 GMT

Now there are two ways to do this....

you can either have drugs pre drawn up either for IV use or diluted for use down ET Tube.

I personally think this is a waste, esp if you are in a slightly quieter practice.

Where I used to work we had a piece of foam with cut out bits in with so many vials of each drug. Think it was enough for 50kgs. This was then restocked if the crash box was used trying to find a picture. Am sure I posted it on another thread....

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Mrs Dot Dot — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:45:30 GMT

And me please, if any ones got one... dosages of drugs etc,,, ours is not the best and it is one of the things that is on my list of things to do ... Mr Nick? ST? Caro?

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Sophie Bedford RVN CertVNECC — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:22:00 GMT

You read my mind!

Could I have a copy too!!