NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

SharonSP — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:26:43 GMT

[quote user="Broodmare"]

Pick and choose your course provider, We at AVVT are offering the transitional over a year, so you will finish as normal next summer. You can change your course provider at any point if you want to. Some will be doing 2 years, some 18 months and some a normal academic year. Depends on what will suit you.

The Transitional year, will be fine, it will flow well and should work quite nicely, it will just be the getting used to the NPL that may take a little time, but that is the same for any new thing. Overall I think the new Diploma is a nicer more practically focused course.

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Broodmare is right, course providers have been given the power to deliver the course as they see fit, with some basic guidelines. They can deliver it over what time period best suits. CAW are also proposing to deliver the transition couse in one academic year.

The NPL will be a breath of fresh air for most TPs and SVN's but approx 10 specific patient cases will still need writing up in the form of detailed reflective assignments as part of this, and full time/day release courses for the new diploma. Therefore, some "homework" is definately required. The good news is that the transition course does not require equine delivery as you will sit a specific exam paper tailor made transition students.

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

ginny — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:18:35 GMT

I have yet to see a syllabus or find out how its running at our VNAC. Recent correspondence said they would tell us soon and the IV is visiting this week so may find out more then. I'll reserve judgement on whether it will fit in a year til then!!

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

Broodmare — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:11:49 GMT

In the transitional award and SA pathway of the Diploma, it is only putting on a head collar and picking a foot up that is required practically and in the theory part it is copmparative anatomy, so would include dog, cat & exotic as well as equine.

I think it is a good idea to check with other course providers regarding their fees etc if your practice only uses one course provider, you may be surprised!

The transitional award fits very nicely into a year, you just need to look closely at the syllabus! The full Diploma fits well into 2 years, again you just need to look at resources and the content of the syllabus. Personally I would rather step on a bit for 2 years than dilly dally about for 3 before I qualify! 2 years before an external exam is a long time!

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Jenny Cook RVN — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:31:16 GMT

We cant choose our course provider. Its the boss' call, and cos the college im with is cheaper, were sticking with them...

Ive seen a demo of the NPL, and its looks good, i suppose would take a while to get used too though.

[quote user="Stella Skelton SVN MBVNA"]

. I fail to comprehend why us on the SA route have to do equine though. It has no relevance at all.

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As far as im aware, its only basic equine anatomy and husbandry (pulling on head collars, etc etc)

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

littlehays — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:31:13 GMT

[quote user="Stella Skelton SVN MBVNA"]

I can't choose. It's practice's call. They stick with my current one because of fees. I do agree though that the new diploma will be better as it will be more practical focused. But us stuck in the middle will be disadvantaged. I fail to comprehend why us on the SA route have to do equine though. It has no relevance at all.

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i may be wrong, but as i understand it those of us on nvq2 who move to the new diploma don't need to do equine because it is in the 2nd year of the diploma that you specialise in either small animal or equine? i might have misunderstood it though.

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

Stella Skelton RVN — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:02:07 GMT

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

ginny — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:16:01 GMT

Not all students can pick or choose their course provider - ours can't, it wouldn't fit in with the rest of the practice, depends on the rotas, funds etc but I'm all for changing the current system for new students. However, I am concerned about those stuck in the middle and am worried that they may be disadvantaged. I've not yet heard from our VNAC as to how they are going to run the course. I am hoping to get a copy of the syllabus etc as feel it likely we will need to plug some gaps in practice if they are running it over an academic year. There just will not be time to fit it all in. My Level 2 student is looking forward to doing equine (and so am I!!)

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

Broodmare — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:23:29 GMT

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Stella Skelton RVN — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:25:27 GMT

I've just done my first year and will be transitioning onto the new diploma for my subsequent year(s). My college aren't even sure how they'll be teaching us lot yet but there's talk of an extra 15 months instead of 12 of regular teaching or regular college work supplemented by distance learning.

Also, is anybody else miffed at the fact that those doing a small animal pathway still have to learn equine basics? It makes absolutely no sense and will just fill my head with more crap that i don't need and won't remember. I've barely stroked a horses nose before. If i wanted to be involved with horses i would've gone the other way.

Another thing i've been told by the CAW (our VNAC) is that if the course runs for 15 months there won't be any earlier exams for us lot, we'll have to wait until the summer (2 yrs from now) at the end of our course. That sucks too. This means it's taking us longer to qualify, earn less money and prevent some of us from moving on earlier. Grrr...

The RCVS are a load of utter crap. I'm really losing my patience for all of this. There's such a lack of understanding from those who aren't currently going through training or transitioning.

Sorry for the rant. x

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

Vicky RVN — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:57:39 GMT

A level 2 nurse at work is doing 2nd year diploma next year. She's doing it in a year, as the NVQ would have been.

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

chloehaddow — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:38:51 GMT

Hi Jenny, i'm stuck halfway between the two also! i sat my theory exams on Friday and am starting back at college in September to do transitional course (would have been nvq 3) but we havent been told we will have to do an extra 1/2 year! im worried now!

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

Jenny Cook RVN — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:51:02 GMT

Yes, caught in the middle... Ive done my first year on the NVQ L2 scheme and will be starting back in spetember on the new diploma but have been told it will be another year and a half also, as a transitional course, becuase some units would have been covered on the NVQ L2.

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

Charlotte — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:07:55 GMT

Hey,

I am stuck half way aswel! i failed my exam at the end of L2, and restarting myerscough in October, I wont know anyone :(

I have to change to the Online system however i havn't heard anything about it yet? Little confused?!? AND i LOVED doing portfolio! sad i know!!

Re: NVQ - Diploma lvl 3

azlana — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:20:03 GMT

Mine are doing it where i have to go to college again from sept - march to finish off all the needed learning time... urgh rubbish

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xXx Cat xXx — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:17:33 GMT

My college has done it so we should still finish as we would have by doing internet learning for 2 hours aweek outside of college.

We are going to be the guinea pigs unfortunatly but looking on the otherside future fellow svns will get a better deal when they start the diploma as hopefully most of the bugs will be ironed out with us if that makes sense.

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