Very Cute Shar Pei

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Steph Phillips — Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:07:42 GMT

I suppose all dogs have the tendancy to be aggressive.. we could say the same about rotties, pitbull types, and yes - even those little westies!

IMO it depends on the owner.. the owner HAS to be the alpha male or female - show them who is boss right from the start, this being to avoid aggressive behaviour and listen to commands from the owner.. However I f*cking hate hate hate seeing these hoodie thugs pratting around the street with pitbull type / shar pei / rottie, or whatever 'aggressive' dog they choose, purely to "look hard" .. no wonder people are scared of some breeds when they are brought up with a thug! thats just my opinion anyway!

I personally like shar pei's - only seen about 2 aggressive shar pei's in the 9yrs I've worked in practice.. I've seen more aggressive yorkshire terriers than shar pei's Lol!! saying that though, I still wouldn't own one due to the number of problems they get!

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:26:19 GMT

Agree with Kim and others. My introduction to a SP was having to dog grab one to heavy sedate.. then GA it. On coming round, no movement... then sat up and tried to grab me but took one bite straight through the et tube. Luckily there was a thread holding top to bottom et tube sections and l pulled it out as l dodged the dog.

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Kim Buckley — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:41:26 GMT

I know I am being breedist but I just do not like them and don't think I could ever trust one. Met some semi nice ones in practice and even they have made me wary and I just wouldn't want a dog I couldn't trust. I know it's not their fault but they have the potential to be dangerous dogs and I wouldn't one.

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zara — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:39:04 GMT

sadly its not their fault they are how they are due to a fashion idea with humans (sadly in america they are breeding pugpeis (pug x shar pei), because they want a smaller version of the shar pei).

i had a shar pei (which i got before i went into nursing) as i got a toy when i was 5 and always wanted one.

sadly about a year ago i had to have him pts due to him having shar pei fever / swollen hock syndrome which is a gene problem, luckily enough he never had any skin problems but yes he did have entropion.

i am not trying to stand up for the breed, he had a lovely temperament at home but with strangers i would not trust him but i knew he had issues and dealt with it by taking him to training lessons and being more aware out and about.

but yes they do have temperamental problems and i would def say they are not dogs for children, sadly they are a fighting dog and the only way to improve things is clients to be more aware and do the research and the breeders to try and change their ways (which i personnaly know is very hard)

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Kerry Brennand DipAVN (Surgical) RVN A1 MBVNA — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:37:28 GMT

I am looking to take "sid" on but depends on our dog.....he is being rehomed as the mastiff they have has just had 12 pups and the owner is 8 months pregnant so they have their hands full!!!! I have not had chance to meet him yet.........he does look cute though!!!!!

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Tracy Windler RVN — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:51:50 GMT

I might just be slow and not noticed it has been mentioned, but do you know why he is being re-homed? I'm on the lookout for another dog, but would rather have something old and decrepid that no-one else wants!

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Anonymous — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:38:16 GMT

I looked at the pic quickly and thought 'eh, a brindle shar pei?!'

Then spotted him underneath!

Really good to hear that his current owner is clued up and hope you find somewhere nice for him! x

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Kerry Brennand DipAVN (Surgical) RVN A1 MBVNA — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:09:22 GMT

Found out now he is called "Sid"......he has no skin problems or eye problems (as yet) the current owner has been very good and had him to a dermo vet for advice as she is fully aware of the breed.....here a few more piccies to try change your mind!!!! I dont agree with the breeding of this breeds that are born with sooooo many problems....but its not this little guys fault......I am sooooo soft I know he would have a fantastic home with me.....I would hate for him to go to a bad home......I would safe them all if I could!!!!!!!

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Anonymous — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:17:08 GMT

Hear hear, does make you wonder if it's fair to the dog.....but then that leads us to the ethical ball game (no world cup pun intended) of pedigree dog breeding. Bonkers I say!

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bongo — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:23:54 GMT

Im sorry, did I just see the words 'very cute' and 'sharpei' used in the same sentence?

They are products of our doing and people should be ashamed of themselves, same with bulldogs!

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Anonymous — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:31:25 GMT

Hear hear!

I actually cannot believe that she believed what she was being told - are there any animals in this world that are born with 'not fully developed skin!?'

Why don't potential owners chat to us before they buy the dog NOT afterwards!?

Grumble over!

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Kerry Brennand DipAVN (Surgical) RVN A1 MBVNA — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:16:40 GMT

God the poor dogs have no chance with idiots like that around!!!!! Poor dog bet it was in agony with its skin......also goes to show the people that take these dogs on or any dog don't tend to do their homework on the breed they are getting and they wonder why problems start!!!!

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Anonymous — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:59:32 GMT

An owner came in with her shar pei pup with....you guessed it......HORRIFIC skin. Red raw and weeping. I asked the owner about this i.e. how long has it been like it? She told me that the breeder said that 'shar pei's are unique in that when they are born, their skin has not fully formed and that it will develop properly in time' !!!!!!???????

Admittingly, I have never seen a nice shar pei (we have even had to sedate one to get near it to vaccinate it - extremely very aggressive) but i do feel sorry for them with all of their health problems - especially when some breeders are giving out information like this. (If I remember correctly, they are also difficult to insure with some insurance companies.......)

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Polly P — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:27:31 GMT

Or you rarely hear about the good ones cos they don't cause problems!

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Phrin Vernon RVN — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:14:57 GMT

That is shocking! They are the ones that give breeders the bad name! Now I can count the number of good breeders I have met on my hand (with 'dew claws' removed ;) and then some), but they do exist! Just seems that the bad type are just much more prevelant.

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Kerry Brennand DipAVN (Surgical) RVN A1 MBVNA — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:07:25 GMT

I would have been in tears!!!!!!! Also would have any bottom lip/tongue left as I would be biting them so I didnt say anything to the breeder!!!!!! Poor bitch having to go through all that

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Nick Shackleton — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:03:19 GMT

myself and all the other nurses as well as some quite young students and ANAs were truely shocked and upset by their behaviour. Just glad we didn't have any work experience in that week!

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Kerry Brennand DipAVN (Surgical) RVN A1 MBVNA — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:01:42 GMT

OMG thats awful bloody breeders!!!!!!!

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Nick Shackleton — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:53:28 GMT

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Totally agree KIm.....we had a cavalier bitch in that had to have a caesarian on her 1st litter....we advised having her spayed.....but wouldnt....the owner has since bred twice more.......both caesarians...its very wrong...it always annoys me as well when the owners asks about teh pups how many etc without athought of how the bitch is!!!!!!!

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Sounds like a breeder I used to know

She routinely insisted on a caesarians for ALL her bitches! Boss was old school and used to pander to her! Even to the extent of letting her watch in theatre. Anyone, one day we were doing one of her bitches caesarians. I was on puppy duty and my best mate was on anaesthesia! Breeder was constantly looking over my mates shoulder asking her all sorts of questions about the anaesthestic! Anyone, puppies were delivered and a few other nurses worked away at pups. All were not doing very well. It transpired that the breeder had got her dates muddled up and the pups were delivered too early. We tried desperately to save them. Unfortunately, all pups died very sad. and all breeder had to say was "oh well they aren't very nice colours and there all boys as well"

I really don't like breeders!

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Kerry Brennand DipAVN (Surgical) RVN A1 MBVNA — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:46:21 GMT

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Kim Buckley — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:43:29 GMT

It annoys me so so so much when people come in with their bulldog puppies that they have paid a small fortune for and the only reason they have bought them is the way they look. They don't think about the health problems at all. Any dog that can't give birth naturally should not exist! Rant over.

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Kerry Brennand DipAVN (Surgical) RVN A1 MBVNA — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:42:25 GMT

Fab....finally there is a NICE shar pei out there!!! What ashame about the cosmetic surgery though......glad shes none the worst for having it done though.........the breeding is terrible...yeh bulldogs need a whole post to themselves.....its horrid to see bulldogs unable to breath!!!!!!

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Phrin Vernon RVN — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:42:04 GMT

I meant

lol

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Phrin Vernon RVN — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:41:15 GMT

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really dont like them, all the ones i've come across have been evil, plus allergic to them, plus all their health probs they should not be bred at all as far as i'm concerned!!!!

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I thought exactly the same as you until recently.

However, we currently have a 6mo shar pei girly on our books, lovely dog, lovely temperament, and crucially, very sensible owner! Pooch has already been spayed pre season, and had a bilateral entropian, and a 'facelift' to ease the discomfort with her eyes.

She seems none the worse for wear for her ops, and is still sweet and waggy when she comes in. She is THE only nice shar pei I have met in 12years though! And I think a lot of that is down to the owner being realistic about the breed problems and costs involved, and ensuring she is well trained and socialised. Yay for sensible owners!

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I agree that sensible ownership is the key to the behaviour probs HOWEVER why do they spend so much money on a pure breed which you then know you're going to have to spend a fortune on to correct bred in problems such as the entropians etc!!!!

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TBH i'm not sure if this was a bought pup or a rescue. But to put the client into perspective, last year she came in with a geriatric, entire, emaciated, matted up to the eyeballs old man of a cat, that she had come across as a stray while on holiday in wales. She paid a small fortune to get him comfortable, vacc'd, chipped, neutered, and to have a work up on his condition.

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Phrin Vernon RVN — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:36:27 GMT

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Would be nicer though if dogs weren't bred with these problems in the first place.

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Very true!

Bulldogs, shar peis, persians - any extremely bred breed REALLY gets my back up!

The only reason they are like that is for human entertainment, if you like! There's no good reason whatsoever!

The KC breed standards have a lot to answer for! I know they have revised them recently to make them slightly less extreme, but that is a change that was long overdue!!