Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Sun, 23 May 2010 19:00:54 GMT

Vicky,

the surgery went well, but I havent seen Bud since he has had his surgery. I will find out though as I am sure some of the rest of the team have seen him.

Little Demona,

many thanks for that link, I have since become a member - thank you.

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Anneke Kuipers — Sat, 08 May 2010 00:39:35 GMT

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Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Vicky RVN — Fri, 07 May 2010 23:57:02 GMT

How is the little staffie doing post op Paula? Being the sort of paranoid owner that i am, i've thought about how Jack would cope with a limb missing...i imagine they're a breed that would find it hard with their shape?

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:30:59 GMT

Many thanks!

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Nick Shackleton — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:28:23 GMT

[quote user="Saskia Paula Quinn"]

[quote user="Nick 'Batfink' Shackleton DipAVN(Surgical) VN"]

I have email address of one of the radiographers who works for burgess! Can contact him and ask if he has some images he could send me........

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Nick, that would be fantastic!! So long as you dont mind!!

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have just emailed him!!!

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:25:52 GMT

[quote user="Nick 'Batfink' Shackleton DipAVN(Surgical) VN"]

I have email address of one of the radiographers who works for burgess! Can contact him and ask if he has some images he could send me........

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Nick, that would be fantastic!! So long as you dont mind!!

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Nick Shackleton — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:08:26 GMT

I have email address of one of the radiographers who works for burgess! Can contact him and ask if he has some images he could send me........

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:58:10 GMT

MRI is definitely a great tool to have then!

Would love to see an mri scan of a brachial plexus - I would find it so interesting!

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Samantha Bell BSc(Hons) DipHE CVN DipAVN RVN VNA M — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:53:51 GMT

we use MRI for imaging these ... fantastic for picking up these injuries, also can diagnose nerve root/sheath tumours...

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:48:37 GMT

[quote user="Samantha Bell"]

We see these injuries, normally for MRI as they can also be spinal issues. Depends whether they are complete brachial plexus severed or just damaged. If gone completly, normally ampututation or if damaged, they canimprove with massage and physio and hydrotherapy

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thanks for that Samantha.

How can you tell if it is completely severed, as opposed to damaged?

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Samantha Bell BSc(Hons) DipHE CVN DipAVN RVN VNA M — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:41:44 GMT

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:26:51 GMT

thats good that the cat made a full recovery Emma

The SBT I am referring to has been on steroids for 3 weeks now, he is on tramadol also and the owner ran out of tramadol and missed the morning dose, she said that he was very sore due to missing that one dose.

I think if given time, sometimes even dogs can recover, but the fact that Bud is so painful, I think the best thing in this case is to amputate the leg - as difficult as it will be

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Emma Purnell — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:12:00 GMT

We had something similar in a cat the other week.

It had suffered a number of bite wounds and the swelling had affected the nerve to the point the cat had no movement in that leg at all, it just flopped in the breeze - was pretty terrifying! X-rays showed no problems, antibiotics and time and the cat was back to normal! Was very dramatic at the time, certainly scared us all!

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:39:34 GMT

no, of course thats a help Kim - thank you.

I am very interested in this for some strange reason and I would like to research more into it so any contributions are more than welcome

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Kim Buckley — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:33:15 GMT

[quote user="Saskia Paula Quinn"]

Mmm... interesting indeed, I have never seen it in cats.

[quote user="Kim Blowing RVN"]

Never seen it in a dog but seen quite a few in RTA cats. There is one I can think of that got better but all the rest haven't

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Kim, do you know what was done for the cat that got better?

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From what I can remember (it was about 6 years ago and I'd only just started my training), he just seemed to get better over time. He had severe head injuries aswell so I presume he must have been on some sort of pain relief and antibiotics but I don't know what else. Sorry that's not much help is it.

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:29:57 GMT

[quote user="Vicky VN"]

Have only ever seen it result in amputations too Not nice.

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yes, thats the only outcome I have ever known, no matter how hard you try

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Saskia Quinn — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:28:57 GMT

Mmm... interesting indeed, I have never seen it in cats.

[quote user="Kim Blowing RVN"]

Never seen it in a dog but seen quite a few in RTA cats. There is one I can think of that got better but all the rest haven't

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Kim, do you know what was done for the cat that got better?

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Olivia Shelley — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:51:09 GMT

We had a stray kitten brought into work with it once, one of the nurses took it on and is fine now! She was only teeny tiny (around 8-12 weeks) and it resolved pretty much on its own after a month or two.

Sorry, not a dog but hope it helps!

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Maisy — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:23:30 GMT

Have only ever seen it result in amputations too Not nice.

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Kim Buckley — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:18:19 GMT

Never seen it in a dog but seen quite a few in RTA cats. There is one I can think of that got better but all the rest haven't

Re: Brachial Plexus Avulsion

Claire Cameron — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:42:53 GMT

Thats awful Paula sorry to hear that.

I've never seen anything like that before but have seen bitch spays go home lame when vets have tied the forelimbs forward but resolved within 24-48hours