Surgical scrubbing brushes

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

sisterscope1 — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:26:16 GMT

There's no evidence to suggest using a brush is useful at all during surgical hand prep, in fact it may be detrimental. Nail cleaning can be achieved with a nail pick under running water. I think there is considerably more risk with re-using a brush/sponge (even if disinfected) than not using one at all. If they'e happy to use one brush per person per day, let them for the first scrub of the day and then don't use one after that.

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Kerry Spain — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:15:21 GMT

Hey guys you don't need to preach to the allready converted

I know there are better means of sterilisation but when you work for a skin-flint, Milton has to do!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Claire Cameron — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:42:31 GMT

[quote user="Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN"]

cheaper still- these were the ones i meant to post last time (i use too many suppliers)

http://www.broschdirect.com/hand-care/scrub-brushes/cat_338.html

price is for a pack of 25

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Bargain!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN D32/33 — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:27:20 GMT

cheaper still- these were the ones i meant to post last time (i use too many suppliers)

http://www.broschdirect.com/hand-care/scrub-brushes/cat_338.html

price is for a pack of 25

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Claire Cameron — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:40:52 GMT

[quote user="*Steph *"]

[quote user="Vicky SVN"]

[quote user="Mrs Dot Dot' Tracey Plant RVN MBVNA"]

[quote user="Nick 'Batfink' Shackleton DipAVN(Surgical) VN"]

It's only 50p!!!!!!!

Surely that ain't gonna break the bank!!!!

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I know!!!!!! But how do you convince vets on a pointless mission!!! ?

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Could you not just ask them to increase op price by 50p...surely they can't argue with that? That's what we'd do if we want to use something more costly, just slightly increase price...it's so little money on the cost clients wouldn't even notice, and animal gets better care

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Very true vicky!! - and if they STILL kick up a fuss, I'd buy one my bloody self! Lol!

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Even cheaper at 41p http://www.vygonvet.co.uk/82-impregnated-surgical-brush-with-sponge-and-nail-pick.html

OR 35p for a dry brush and they can use their own hibi or alternative http://www.vygonvet.co.uk/83-dry-surgical-brush-with-sponge-and-nail-pick.html

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Juliet Drummond DAVN (med) RVN D32/33 — Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:49:47 GMT

i use these, much cheaper than ez scrubs. no compromise on standards

http://www.imseuro.co.uk/sub.asp?id=178

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Steph Phillips — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 22:46:37 GMT

[quote user="Vicky SVN"]

[quote user="Mrs Dot Dot' Tracey Plant RVN MBVNA"]

[quote user="Nick 'Batfink' Shackleton DipAVN(Surgical) VN"]

It's only 50p!!!!!!!

Surely that ain't gonna break the bank!!!!

[/quote]

I know!!!!!! But how do you convince vets on a pointless mission!!! ?

[/quote]

Very true vicky!! - and if they STILL kick up a fuss, I'd buy one my bloody self! Lol!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Vicky RVN — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 20:17:33 GMT

[quote user="Mrs Dot Dot' Tracey Plant RVN MBVNA"]

[quote user="Nick 'Batfink' Shackleton DipAVN(Surgical) VN"]

It's only 50p!!!!!!!

Surely that ain't gonna break the bank!!!!

[/quote]

I know!!!!!! But how do you convince vets on a pointless mission!!! ?

[/quote]

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Sal the 1st — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:42:15 GMT

NVS or Safavet

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Mrs Dot Dot — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:19:17 GMT

So... where does everyone get their soft autoclavable brushes from pls? and what type? I definately have to look at alternatives............

Thanks for making me feel that I'm not a paranoid VN!!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Laura Ringsell — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:15:07 GMT

We use the autoclaveable ones - one for each procedure. One per day would worry me and if autoclaveable ones are not an option I would be desperately looking for alternative savings elsewhere. If you buy good quality brushes designed for the purpose you should be fine. I have also never had experience of brushes getting brittle of bristles falling out - good luck with this one...

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:11:26 GMT

We use autoclaveable ones.. and we also ultrasonically clean them too, no signs of bristles falling out or becoming brittle.

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Steph Phillips — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 21:39:52 GMT

We have about 4 or 5 brushes, and we have always autoclaved them after each op, no bristles have fallen off yet and they dont scratch our skin.. Like Nick says, they are cheap - and a sterile one is opened for the vet before each op - autoclave only takes about 10mins, so no excuses not to have a sterile one on the ready x

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Lolita — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 21:11:30 GMT

you try to convince them its their idea...I have to do it all the time...its such hard work!!!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Mrs Dot Dot — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 21:07:53 GMT

[quote user="Nick 'Batfink' Shackleton DipAVN(Surgical) VN"]

It's only 50p!!!!!!!

Surely that ain't gonna break the bank!!!!

[/quote]

I know!!!!!! But how do you convince vets on a pointless mission!!! ?

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Nick Shackleton — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:39:11 GMT

It's only 50p!!!!!!!

Surely that ain't gonna break the bank!!!!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Mrs Dot Dot — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:36:04 GMT

Kezza - we use milton for our e/t tubes and our plastic bits....

Claire... I feel like you and Nick do... I would really be alot happier if a new brush per op were used.... my nursing instinct is very umcomfortable with it otherwise

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Claire Cameron — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:07:23 GMT

We use a autoclavable brushes and use a sterile one each time. Have used hibi impregnated ones at other practices.

One brush per day is a bit I'd have thought, like Nick says all imagine all the bacteria ewww

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Kerry Spain — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:00:16 GMT

Milton!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Mrs Dot Dot — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:58:45 GMT

Hi Kezza... what do you use for cold sterilization?

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Kerry Spain — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:53:46 GMT

We use re-useable brushes, rinse them out well after use and let them sit in a cold sterilisation bath for the alloted period before using them again. Bristles don't seem to fall out and so far not had a break down in asepsis for the last 16 years.

Nice cheap way of doing it I suppose, no doubt someone will disagree

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Maisy — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:44:03 GMT

If your boss is that worried, surely just incorporating the cost into each surgical procedure isn't going to increase the cost to client massively?! Employers do come out with some strange things

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Charlotte says smile — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:36:41 GMT

In my practice we have the EZ scrubs however much we argued it the vets always had one for the day and all shared for all ops, one of the other nurses used to use it to wash her hands with after she'd washed kennels etc!! drives me up the wall!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Kay Eminson — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:12:07 GMT

Ha, at our practice they ALL use just the one No matter how much it's brought up no one listens! AND to make matters worse it can't be due to cost as we now have these other brushes that are cheaper than before!!

Re: Surgical scrubbing brushes

Mrs Dot Dot — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:42:54 GMT

Costwise it works out at around 50p each which is nothing compared to a good standard of scrub... I feel like it would be taking us back to the dark ages of when I was a trainee! And dropping our standards!