Was Vet in the wrong?

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Jenny Cook RVN — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:04:51 GMT

[quote user="Selena Carnell"]

[. I Doubt it was done with any thought, also dont know if he was still trying to get the dog off the child in which case any means possible would have been used.

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But the article said, he took girl to neighbours and said he had to return to his house to 'sort the dog out'.... so i dont think the girl was stil being atacked when he stabbed his dog... i was just going by what i read in the article thats all... i still think it was wrong to stab the dog to death whatever it did.

Quote from the article : "I took her to a neighbour’s house to call for help but then I felt I had to leave her and go back to sort out the dog"

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Selena Carnell — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:47:15 GMT

[quote user="Jenny Cook"]cruelty in my opinion, even if it did bite the child... it didnt deserve to be killed in such a manner!!!!![/quote]

I think being rational would have gone out of the window, I know if it had been my child and dog i wouldnt be held responsible for my actions. I Doubt it was done with any thought, also dont know if he was still trying to get the dog off the child in which case any means possible would have been used.

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Jenny Cook RVN — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:35:23 GMT

sounds horrific.... and even worse he was intent of 'getting revenge' by the sounds of it, by stabbing his dog to death!!! cruelty in my opinion, even if it did bite the child... it didnt deserve to be killed in such a manner!!!!!

And comon sense with dogs and children... why leave a 2 yr old alone anyways with it around!!

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Ellie P — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:08:09 GMT

I work in Blackheath and know a few others dotted around eltham, woolwich and averyhill.

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Royalsuper_fairy — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:52:51 GMT

I work in Sidcup. Where are you?

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Ellie P — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:37:58 GMT

I actually went to school with the mum of the child and she was such a great person. She dealt with alot at school as she used a wheelchair alot due to mobility problems. I was told that she had three dogs and the bitch came into heat, inducing the dog to become aggressive.

I only know this as i was told by a third party but the problem is you can never know what you hear or read is the full truth or exaggerated.

I just hate that so many people are irresponisble as to not look into a breeds true behaviour and the laws and legislation involved.......but then the way social services are with children no wonder people can have the tragedies they do.

Oh and super fairy where do u work because i also worl local :-)

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Royalsuper_fairy — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:37:18 GMT

Thats only down the road from where I work! How shocking!

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Fuzzyduck — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:22:32 GMT

I didnt think you could refuse to PTS an agressive animal even if it displayed no outward aggression at the clinic, you would be responsible if that dog was to go on to injure another person.

We too had to PTS a 4 month old collie as the owner said it was biting, it sounded like play biting, when they mouth your hands when they are young but the owners insisted it was biting and aggressive so there was nothing we could do, so sad

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Olivia Shelley — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:09:02 GMT

Sorry Selena that sounds horrible, but the point is you learned from it and changed things, whereas it sounds like these people didnt.

I totally agree wih Emma as well, we often suggest a behaviourist first unless the prolem is extreme. We recently put a young staffy to sleep because she couldn't stand any other animal. She was absolutely lovely with people and it broke both the vet nd my own heart, she was only about a year old, but that morning had tried to throw herself through patio doors to get to sheep 1/2 a mile away! Sadly, some animals are beond help, but its especially terrible when they are so young and fine with humans

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

emma sime — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:22:42 GMT

Hi Selena,

I wonder what was actually said to the owners regarding pts (we all know how they interpret what has been said to them at times). I really doubt that any vet would refuse to put a dog to sleep that had already bitten when there were children in the house. Chances are they suggested seeing a behaviourist and the clients have misunderstood.

What a horrible story!

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Selena Carnell — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:17:43 GMT

True, but it only takes a split second for a dog to turn as i know to my own stupidity, i was in the same room as my son and my collie when Daisy bit him, (over a bone) They have been fine ever since, and we dont give food or bones in the same space as the kids now.

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Olivia Shelley — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:08:50 GMT

That really is a horrific story. One major issue I have with it thoguh, is if they were so concerned when he dog bit the other childs' hand that they wanted it put to sleep - why was it then left in the same room as a 2 year old child?!

Seriously, people need common sense.

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Selena Carnell — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:31:09 GMT

Well thats what i thought, most vets dont have time to scratch their back side let alone train clients dogs. i know you dont get the full story from the papers.

We had to put a 6 month old collie puppy to sleep as the owners said it had been agressive - although it had been a christmas stray with us for a few weeks it never showed aggression but becuas the new owners were adament thei 6 month old had pinned them down we HAD to PTS.. horrible thing to have to to but we couldnt rehome if there was and doubt it would bite.

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Vicky RVN — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:16:47 GMT

I notice the article said the vets claimed they could train the dog...if it were a behavioural issue and not an underlying health problem then surely a behaviourist would be the way to go, vets aren't behaviourists!

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Steph Phillips — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:14:27 GMT

OMG!! Thats horrific!

I personally would hope all vets would consider aggression to be something more than behavioural - at times it could be due to something neurological or thyroid problems etc.. said in the article that the dog wasn't always aggressive! such a horrible thing!

Re: Was Vet in the wrong?

Vicky RVN — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:12:48 GMT

I do wonder if the attack was provoked in some way? With the papers you can never quite believe exactly what they say. I didn't think a vet would be allowed to refused euth?