Dog Ownership

Re: Dog Ownership

Saskia Quinn — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:12:17 GMT

I am so pleased for you Jo that you have decided to keep him! I'm sure he will have a great home

Nicky - thats a really sad story about the old couple and their dog. Very hard to get round the fact they had reported it to the dog warden but still it was rehomed. You would have thought any strays that come in would be checked against the phonecalls reporting missing dogs - surely thats such a basic thing to do? I do hope the couple are ok. I wonder if they are going to follow it up?

Re: Dog Ownership

Jo Mackenzie — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:33:35 GMT

[quote user="maria thompson"]

sorry can't offer any advice on this one but just wanted to say how pleased I am youve decided to keep him - awwwh

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Thanks! He's great, I lvoe him already! Good luck finding one yourself!

Re: Dog Ownership

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:39:02 GMT

sorry can't offer any advice on this one but just wanted to say how pleased I am youve decided to keep him - awwwh

Re: Dog Ownership

Nicola Smith — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:15:41 GMT

I know, I would have fought but they were an elderly couple and were just so shocked at the time I dont think they knew what to do. I suppose at least it had been rehomed rather than PTS!

Re: Dog Ownership

funkyfish — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:14:22 GMT

Thats awfull! I think if you have taken all reasonable steps to recover the dog they have to give it to you, its the Dog Wardens fault for not checking. I'd fight it personally. I think phoning them and an ad in the paper is reasonable.

Re: Dog Ownership

Nicola Smith — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:57:31 GMT

We had an awful case few weeks ago. Dog picked up dog warden from our village. Taken to local rescue kennels. Who knows what happened then but they apparently scanned for a chip and it had one, and was indeed a dog they had recenrtly homed an chiped themselves but they didnt ring the owners as they didnt think they would want it back?? Owner had rung day it went missing to report it to them but dog not taken in for 2 days after that, they didnt think to ring again as they had reported it. I knew about the dog and only when friend mentioned to me about appeal in paper for missing shepherd that we put 2 and 2 together and rung the owners and told them to check the kennels as dog fitting description had definitely gone there. They phoned but dog rehomed the day before. They were devastated. AWFUL. Why do we other pushing microchips when places choose to ignore them.

Re: Dog Ownership

Jo Mackenzie — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:16:53 GMT

[quote user="funkyfish"]BUT the dog will be legally yours if you 'rehome' it through a proper organisation[/quote]

That's a really stupid rule lol. We have a local rehoming charity who we deal with a lot and know the owner personally so will maybe ask her about "rehoming" him to me. As I've said above, if an owner did turn up I'd give him back providing they seemed genuine and weren't going to be beating him up or anything, but I'd like to legally own him in case an owner turns up who doesn't really want him, just wants him back cos he's theirs, if that makes any sense lol.

Re: Dog Ownership

funkyfish — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:34:19 GMT

I looked this up recently. Its not a case of finders keepers, even if in 5 years time an owner comes forwards you will have to give the dog up.

BUT the dog will be legally yours if you 'rehome' it through a proper organisation like a local rescue centre or dog warden (crazy I know), this happened to a client at work, they told the dog warden they had found a dog and had it for 2 weeks, they put posters up told all vets in 20mile radius and put ad in the local paper. The dog warden took the dog for 7 days then officially gave it to the people. A couple months later this bloke claimed it was his, kicked up a huge fuss and tried to take them to court who said it had been officially rehomed to the new people as dog warden had it and the people had reasonably tried to find the owner. The bloke was pissed off but could do nothing.

You can also ask a local small rehoming centre to 'rehome' it on paper officially for you for a donation?

There is info on the national dog warden website. Hope this helps!

Re: Dog Ownership

Jo Mackenzie — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:57:02 GMT

[quote user="sal the 1st"]

I know this is a bit different because it was a cat - but same principle

http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/forums/p/6767/66874.aspx#66874

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Lovely story!

Re: Dog Ownership

Sal the 1st — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:59:39 GMT

I know this is a bit different because it was a cat - but same principle

http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/forums/p/6767/66874.aspx#66874

Re: Dog Ownership

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:59:14 GMT

[quote user="Jo Mackenzie"]I'm just terrified of getting attached to him and someone turning up and taking him back!! [/quote]

I can understand that, it's hard not to get attached, and it would definitely be a tug on the heart string to have to give them up, I too have a dog who is not the most excited at meeting new people.. in fact she completely ignores people when we stop and chat ,although I am sure if she were in a similar predicament, she would be glad to see me or mine.. she does greet us with a lovely welcome.

Re: Dog Ownership

Jo Mackenzie — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:48:46 GMT

[quote user="Sandra Taylor RVN"]I am sure it does, and I am sure you would be within your rights in keepeing the dog.... all i am saying is... put yourself in the owners position.... they may well have done everything possible to locate their pet...., and as I said see what the dogs reaction was... if the dog was jumping all over them and very very happy to see them... would you want to deprive that pet from their original owner? I know I wouldn't[/quote]

No, I wouldn't. I know exactly what you mean, I'd hate for it to be one of mine the other way round. I'm just terrified of getting attached to him and someone turning up and taking him back!! But if he did seem excited to see them I'd do the right thing (he doesn't tend to get excited about people, although he does about us now, so it'd be easy enough to tell!)

Re: Dog Ownership

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:40:48 GMT

[quote user="Jo Mackenzie"]

[quote user="Sandra Taylor RVN"]

Hmmm, I think I would see what the dogs reaction would be in that situation personally...

I had a call once from a member of the public (while doing petlog) about a cat that this lady had "taken in" to her home about 15 months previous to the visit.Anyway the cat had been with her a while, the vet scanned him and he had a chip! the lady herself contacted us, and we had the owners details.. this lady was in tears on the phone to me saying she did not want to give him up as he was very special to her.However in the course of the convo, she agreed that if he had been her pet all along and the shoe was on the other foot, she would definitely want her cat back. I contacted the owner with this ladies details, and it turns out that this cat had been a family pet for over 10 years and had grwn up with her daughter, they had done all the usual things of advertising in the area etc contacting vet surgeries and cats homes, but to no avail... they had resigned themselves that he was probably dead. The owner was so grateful that he had been found and desperately wanted him back. I asked her to call me once she had done so.... and even after all that time the cat recognised her and was so very happy to see her.

All I am saying is... hte owners may well have done their best to find this dog, and I know if it was me I would definitely want my dog back,

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What about where rescue centres are involved? If I had brought the dog to a centre and they'd put him up for rehoming where would they stand if the original owner saw the new owner with the dog...? I'm sure it happens sometimes?

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I am sure it does, and I am sure you would be within your rights in keepeing the dog.... all i am saying is... put yourself in the owners position.... they may well have done everything possible to locate their pet...., and as I said see what the dogs reaction was... if the dog was jumping all over them and very very happy to see them... would you want to deprive that pet from their original owner? I know I wouldn't

Re: Dog Ownership

Jo Mackenzie — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:37:11 GMT

[quote user="Sandra Taylor RVN"]

Hmmm, I think I would see what the dogs reaction would be in that situation personally...

All I am saying is... hte owners may well have done their best to find this dog, and I know if it was me I would definitely want my dog back,

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Re: Dog Ownership

Jo Mackenzie — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:30:06 GMT

[quote user="Katie Precious RVN MBVNA"]i would do ANYTHING to find one of mine if they went missing and with you he is in a good home [/quote]

Thanks, that's waht I figured. He was very skinny when he turned up too, still is a bit thin but we're working on it! He's so lovely too, I can't believe somebody didn't want him!

Re: Dog Ownership

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:28:34 GMT

Hmmm, I think I would see what the dogs reaction would be in that situation personally...

All I am saying is... hte owners may well have done their best to find this dog, and I know if it was me I would definitely want my dog back,

Re: Dog Ownership

Katie Tallett RVN MBVNA — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:32:51 GMT

if they haven't got him back by now, they obviously don't want him or haven't tried very hard to find him which i think means they don't deserve him.... if i were you i would chip him, put a collar on with you details and if anybody asks, you have had him for years..........

i would do ANYTHING to find one of mine if they went missing and with you he is in a good home

Re: Dog Ownership

Nikki Graef — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:24:27 GMT

I always thought that if an owner was found within a month they animal had to be returned but if it was after that time then it stayed with the person who rehomed it.

If it had no coller/chip/tag etc then even if they did come up to you and say thats my dog they'd have a hard job proving it!!!