terminating training

Re: terminating training

Vicky RVN — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:53:45 GMT

[quote user="Esme Stickler"] I'm being blanked by the senior vet/owner of the practice- he actually pretended he couldn't hear me yesterday!![/quote]

That is shocking! Childish behaviour! I hope you get things sorted, like others said, take the advice of BVNA then some will happen to sort things out for you. Sounds like you are better off out of there though!

Re: terminating training

Maisy — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:25:26 GMT

I would agree with Sal. Employment issues can be taken extremely seriously if followed up externally (i.e out of practice), but it is something you need to do to get any sort of help with this.

Re: terminating training

Sal the 1st — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:16:04 GMT

DO write the formal grievance letter and DO seek legal advice - its sounds to be much more than cant afford your training (but thats only from what I have seen here) there may be other reasons?. If you dont stick up for yourself then I am afraid nobody is going to do it for you. (sorry if that sounds harsh it isnt meant to be) People can help you but you have to have to stay positive and do the stuff you need to do to get the help in the first place. I know it isnt easy - been there before

Re: terminating training

Esme Stickler — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:07:19 GMT

My assessor is on maternity leave but comes in two days a week to assess me but she's now been told not to come in for me anymore, I feel it's just a waste of my time being there and I'm being blanked by the senior vet/owner of the practice- he actually pretended he couldn't hear me yesterday!!

I've been advised by BVNA to write a formal grievance, but I know this won't get me far.

And now due to satff shortages they want me to do extra hours/nights to cover!! I can't believe these people and I'm getting so down about it...I dread going in to work :(

Re: terminating training

Sal the 1st — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:40:55 GMT

if you cannot get into CAB approach one of the no win no fee solicitors - that way you will find out it there is any legal case to answer (if there isnt they wont be interested) - its just another way of finding out and then if you do have a case its up to you if you want to persue it or not

Re: terminating training

FINNIGAN — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:38:09 GMT

the apprenticship scheme used to be for under 21s but is now chnged, im 46yrs old and i got it,

Re: terminating training

Maisy — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:15:07 GMT

I would still speak to your college as dependant upon how much theory you have to go, if you were to leave, then at least college may not be an issue. One of the students I worked with fractured her leg quite badly a few months before she was due to finish 2nd year and her college emailed her notes to work through at home - your employer has probably already paid in full for this year so your college may be willing to do this.

Definitely get as much portfolio done in the meantime and speak to your assessor to see if she will help with assessor statements etc to help. Practices are more inclined to take on a nearly QVN if the portfolio is finished so this would definitely be in your favour.

You're so close to finishing that really your employers aren't doing themselves any good by letting you go now, though hopefully you wouldn't have too much trouble finding another position because of how far on with training you are. I do hope you get to speak to someone helpful at BVNA legal helpline/Citizens Advice and find out your rights.

Keep us updated.

Re: terminating training

Esme Stickler — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:57:53 GMT

Thanks for all of your replies guys!

The business is struggling but they will need to get another nurse in if I leave so I don't believe it's purely financial; I have had issues with the senior vet/ owner and his wife is the practice manager and I believe this is there way of getting rid of me as they can't actually sack me.

Most of my training already paid for by them so they're losing out by getting rid of me now, only have a few months to go as hoping to take written exam in July and practicals in September. I'm really not in a position to pat for my own exams. My assessor is actually on maternity leave but comes in to assess me. I'm the only student left.

BVNA seemed to think my bosses couldn't do this but now seem to be offering little advice.

Will get in touch with Citizen's Advice but opening hours rather limited and I have to be at work still.

I'm just so furious that they can do this to me and I'm not prepared to take it lying down. Even if I find another TP who can take me on I might miss out on taking exams when planned and qualifying much later!!!

Re: terminating training

Esme Stickler — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:48:06 GMT

I'm too old to qualify for the apprenticeship scheme!

Re: terminating training

Sal the 1st — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:05:29 GMT

is it because they cannot financially afford for you to carry on training - ie the cost of training or that they cannot afford to be a nurse down while you are studying?

Re: terminating training

albatross — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:51:39 GMT

[quote user="FINNIGAN"]

ask your college about the apprentership scheme, i was on this last year and the government fund your training, i got one free text book too, it was done thru my college,

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depends on your age, and on each local authority!
I had a trainee position but the day before I was due to attend college the practice said they couldn't pay my fees. College wanted £820 in the next week so I could start. No grants available in this area, no bursaries due to being over 25, local authority no money to pay for college places, student has to pay for further education. We tried every route possible to avoid having to pay.
So I couldn't start college.
Then practice had to let two vets go........then me.......
end of chance to train......bye bye vet nursing.....no-one wants oldies, no-one wants trainees in Kent (except 2nd years, and even 1st year adverts they mean nearly 2nd year so someone else has paid for the first year and done their portfolio etc).....
in fact even places outside of Kent they don't want non-locals to work for them (even though all my interviews have been outside Kent in the past).
demoralised after 3 1/2 years of trying, don't see the new rules helping in my situation (where's the raft of places advertising for 1st years or saying they are now TP's or ATP's?) and so off to the NHS in order to be able to keep a roof over my head.

You need to work out what costs a new practice will need to spend to employ you, what work you still need towards portfolio and exams. Presumably you are still able to work there, so I don't quite understand if all fees have been paid why they can no longer train you unless the assessor has left?
Good luck, the profession desperately needs qualified staff, and as you're so nearly there it would be a shame if you had to delay.

Re: terminating training

FINNIGAN — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:33:36 GMT

sorry, i put that up twice, too much vino!!!!

Re: terminating training

FINNIGAN — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:32:33 GMT

ask your college about the apprentership scheme, i was on this last year and the government fund your training, i got one free text book too, it was done thru my college,

Re: terminating training

FINNIGAN — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:30:52 GMT

ask your college about the apprentiship scheme, i was on this last year and the government paid for all my training, it was done thru my college provider.

Re: terminating training

Maisy — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:14:52 GMT

In addition speak to your college so that if worse came to worse you may be able to follow up on any work you may miss. You're so near to completing that for your boss to tell you their stopping your training is a bit silly as they're only going to save a bit of money surely. Try and do as much of your portfolio as possible as completing the bulk of this will be a plus point for a new practice taking you on.

I hope things get sorted out for you though.

Re: terminating training

Mrs Dot Dot — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:49:25 GMT

That's harsh! and inconsiderate!? Have they discussed it with you in detail? are you a big practice? are there any other students? Can you look at getting some other funding to help pay for the rest of your training? Might be worth speaking to Citizens Advice....... there may be some gov't funding training help you can get......... Good luck!

Re: terminating training

hissycat — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:03:35 GMT

ouch! I have never heard of this happening. what did the BVNA say? If the business is in trouble they may be doing it because there is no other way... are you in a position where you could pay for it yourself? (I don't know the cost of these things anymore..) otherwise its gonna be a case of finding a new TP who will fund you.. didn't the practice have to pay in advance for college though?