I love SBTs but...

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Vicky RVN — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:06:08 GMT

We can't do any more than we are already sadly! Walking yest morning a pair of yorkies came running up to Jack being really gobby. He was on lead and ignored them to carry on walking. But grrrrrr!!!!

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Emma Bartlett — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:38:24 GMT

When i walk with my 2 rotties and SBT i make sure i put the rotties on leads until we have met the other dog under control especially, like has been mentioned before, if there are young/inexperienced dogs that get a bit bouncy at least they can get the greeting over without being squashed by the rotts as they love to play.

It amazes me that some owners still let their dogs bounce over to us out of control and one lady lets her JRT's run over barking at us My dogs are so good with little dogs and amazingly if they get snapped at by other dogs they will just lift their heads out of the way and move on, but i'm sure if i left my dogs to do whatever they wanted there would be complaints due to size and breed!

A vet i used to work with had one of our other nurses to walk her 2 rotties. One day when rotties were on lead a yorkie, off lead, flew across the road and went for the rotties and one of them retaliated(not sure i blame her really) and grabbed the yorkie and caused some bite wounds. It was taken to the other vets in the area and needed antibiotics and painrelief........ it took lots of explaining to the owner that it was HIS dog that wasn't under control and that it wouldn't have been bitten if he had it under control/on a lead and the fact that it could also have been run over when it ran across the road! The vet paid half of the bill as good will but a crazy situation! The rotties live with a couple of small dogs (JRT and a tiny chihuahua x yorkie) so are well used to littles ones

Not sure what more we can do as big dog/bull terrier owners

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Vicky RVN — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:08:03 GMT

[quote user="Kate Claxton"]

One of my favourite dogs from the PDSA was a lovely brindle Bullmastiff - he was hypothyroid so needed regular bloods, he'd just hold his paw out and SLURP you in the ear while you were sticking a needle in him, bless.

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Talking about mastiffs, we have the most gorgeous one called Nellie that comes in for acupuncture! She's is sooooo lovely! She drawls all over my every time!

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Polly P — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:41:59 GMT

I really do hate people sometimes. Ok, a lot. It's one thing that worries me about pursuing a career as a VN, not being able to keep my gob shut with guys like these...

I live in Peckham, a fairly 'rough' area of London and I swear four out of five dogs I see around here is a SBT or Pitbull type, one of the 'accesory' dogs and more often than not, accompanied by a male owner of a certain type, invariably under the age of 25...

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paula morgan — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:26:25 GMT

Awww she is too cute x

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LoveCat — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:18:09 GMT

Hey Vicky - this is Dora. As you can guess not many people are afraid of her when we go out walking!!

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Kathryn Welsh — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:08:25 GMT

We can do what we want to the danes - concious stitch ups, debride eye ulcers, you name it we've done it! It is sad that certain dogs have the reputation but sadly there are some owners that let/make their dog live up to this reputation! And sadly the SBT that this post started about is going to be one of those!!

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Kate Claxton DipAVN(Med)VN — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:20:36 GMT

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Claire Cameron — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:09:22 GMT

[quote user="Kathryn Welsh"]One of our receptionists has 2 great danes and I go walking with her a lot - you should see the way people react to them though - calling their dogs back, avoiding us - its totally stupid as her danes as the most mild mannered dogs ever, the bitch lies down when others come over so as not to scare them! The danes are better behaved then most dogs out there but people are just so judgemental![/quote]

My friends have a LOVELY bullmastiff who is morelikely to lick to you death than give you a bad look and people pull their dogs out of her way and walk the other way!

She's just the nicest natured pooch I know and she just gets this stigma

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Vicky RVN — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:19:41 GMT

Aww bless!

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Kathryn Welsh — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:16:21 GMT

Yeah at least he can pretend to be a guard dog, Abi gives it away by just sitting there begging for food!

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Vicky RVN — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:10:30 GMT

They really are!

But at least people get out of my way when i'm walking down the path lol

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Kathryn Welsh — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:07:46 GMT

One of our receptionists has 2 great danes and I go walking with her a lot - you should see the way people react to them though - calling their dogs back, avoiding us - its totally stupid as her danes as the most mild mannered dogs ever, the bitch lies down when others come over so as not to scare them! The danes are better behaved then most dogs out there but people are just so judgemental!

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Vicky RVN — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:46:42 GMT

LoveCat...firstly, can we see a pic of your puppy??? She sounds very cute!!!

It's very true what you say about people overreacting and needing to accept consequences if they're going to let their dog run up to others who are on the lead. I always make sure i keep Jack under control and away from little dogs like your pup, cos like you say a big dog playing in a boisterous way is not nice for them, and could do harm without meaning to!

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LoveCat — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:59:50 GMT

I feel for you Vicky - you have done all you can by keeping your dog on a lead and yet others just let their dogs run free - meaning that they can approach your dog without your say so. Whether Jack is aggressive or not I feel people should take responsibility for their own dogs - meaning that if they allow their dog to run up to others willy nilly with no supervision they must accept the consequences.

This is something I am quickly learning - I own a 3kg shih tzu x puppy and the other morning when I was walking two MUCH bigger dogs (it's not hard!) came tanking down the path behind us at full speed - with no owner in sight. It turned out these dogs were not aggressive but were far too boistrous for Dora, knocking her down and pushing her around on the ground. I was keeping my dog safely on a lead but not everyone else does - these two were not even in sight of their owner.

Dora is starting to get a bit cheeky now and the other day when she approached a terrier she got too enthusiastic and jumped at his face. The terrier, quite rightly did the same back at her but because he was so much bigger he knocked her down. She was fine but boy did she squeal!! I just said, well serves you right for being rude. I did not start on the terrier's owner for letting her dog attack mine! Dogs have their own way of sorting things out and unfortunately sometimes people overreact.

I can understand that people may have preconceptions (as my little puppy does look a bit like a rabbit I have to admit I am wary of greyhounds!) but such assumptions are a real shame. Sorry it ruined your walk - try to forget about it and continue to walk Jack in the way you wouldl ike others to walk their dogs.

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Vicky RVN — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:35:06 GMT

Grrrrrrr i'm SO mad, i f**king HATE people being so bloody well biased against Jack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was walking in forest with my dad, my friend, friends mum, her springer and her nans little old poodle. Other people around with their dogs. Lots of dogs throughout the walk run up to see our dogs, have a sniff then run away again. I keep Jack on lead AT ALL TIMES. Under control. He makes friends with the dogs coming to see him. Then a cocker comes running up and pesters Jack. Jack jumps at it, like he does sometimes in a playful way, i pull him away when he does it to stop him squashing smaller dogs with his weight! Cocker is a right wimp and SCREAMS the place down and runs back to it's owner. I call to owner is her dog ok, she is rude and says 'obviously not'. Then people from the other side of the path say that Jack had the cocker around the neck!!! There is NO WAY that happened, if Jack had got it round the neck there would be bloodshed FFS!!! My friends mum is sure that the other dog was provoking Jack. Would i really be walking my dog with other dogs if it was going to attack?! We started walking away when we knew there was nothing wrong with the other dog, then i heard the people from across the path call to the others to see if their dog was ok. I saw red at this point and yelled back "just cos he's a staffie your biased!"!!!! God i'm soooooooo wound up! They're going to go around telling people there is an aggressive staffie, sod the fact that their dog is running up to dogs who are on leads taunting them and screams blue murder over nothing!!!!!!!!! I cannot 100% trust Jack with other dogs off lead, hence me keeping him on lead where i'm under control!

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Vicky RVN — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:50:46 GMT

Oh that poor poor dog Glad someone nice is going to give the little sweetheart a home. I HATE some people

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Kerry Spain — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:06:14 GMT

FFS!!! I work in an area where they are sadly classed as 'accessories', every day we get little scroates in with 'pit bulls innit'

I'm failing to put into words how tired I am with it all and the ignorance of the idiots which 'own' the poor animals.

My very ether is being destroyed by this job and the people that we have to deal with on a day to day basis...

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xxserahxx — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:43:01 GMT

Definatly.. shes a completely different dog.. came in this week for debride and stitch wound..but vet said its healing so well hes not going to bother stitching it..!! :)

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A Little TLC — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:12:44 GMT

The poor little sweetheart!!!! Hope her wounds are healing well, will you keep us posted?

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xxserahxx — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:00:14 GMT

We deal alot with the blue cross.. one bought it to us last week.. with hole in the side of her neck and lots of puncture wounds on her legs.. about 8mths old.. found wandering the streets Hmmm..??? im thinkin the poor dog was used as bait in a fite and then dumped coz of her injuries.. i was heartbroken i cant believe people do this.!! shes now a totally different dog and the people who found her are going to give her a good home :)x

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albatross — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:24:27 GMT

the charity sanctuary I work for (in the vet clinic side), had two staffy's just tied up to the sanctuary fencing last week, they didn't even bother to call in - but then as we're full up with all sorts of dogs and have at least 12 staffy's, the boss didn't want any more......but what can you do?

staffy's and lurchers are the breeds most being dumped in the last two years, and now rottie's are making a bid for "most unwanted".
we rarely see small dogs unless the owner has died, and also common pet like GSD's and labradors don't usually get dumped surprisingly.

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Jo Mackenzie — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:40:51 GMT

Grr these people annoy me - they're the reason that people in the park give my 14 year old arthritic staffie a wide berth!!!!

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Doolally — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:28:43 GMT

oh i wish there was something we could do...i love SBTs too, but my dog was attacked by 2 owned by a useless owner like you describe... guaranteed this one will grow up dog aggressive if its not been socialised

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Vicky RVN — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:22:17 GMT