What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

hissycat — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:34:59 GMT

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All the nurses I work with (including myself HN) are equal, we ALL scrub floors, clean kennels, monitor anaesthetics, answer the phones, work the same shifts. 2 of us are qualified and the other 2 are not.

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Its great that you do that. At the practices I have worked I have always come across VNs and even SVNs that think cleaning is below them. At one practice I was just about to go and clean up some poo form the yard when the head nurse stopped me and said 'don't, we've got lower nurses to do that' I told the 'lower' nurses what she had said anyway, and told them that all nurses should take pride in maintaining a clean and safe environment, like I did. grr. Some people just wanna sit on their butts all day!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Sal the 1st — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:04:34 GMT

best floor scrubbing/wall cleaning music ever!

www.youtube.com/watch

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Vicky RVN — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:40:18 GMT

Lol, they had to make me sit down for lunch for more than 10 min! Every day it would be "Vicky, go and have your lunch"...so i'd have my sandwich, make a fuss of the staff dogs and then go back into theatre..."Vicky, have you had your lunch break?"...me, "Yes!" What was the point of sitting in a staff room when there was interesting stuff going on?!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Nick Shackleton — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:37:42 GMT

When I was on work experience they had to practically throw me out onto the streets!!!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Vicky RVN — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:35:43 GMT

The infuriating thing is, yes we get them to help us clean, but we also give them time each day to watch vets consult/ops. So many end up leaving the room or not paying any attention during ops! We were doing an ultrasound one afternoon on a kitty, vet was telling work exp was on the screen so it should have been interesting for her...i looked up at clock and realised it was her home time so told her she could go...her response "yay" and she went! No goodbye or anything, she seemed desperate to leave! After that we didn't bother explaining to much too her, she obv had no interest!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Alana Dent — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:35:01 GMT

HAHA, we had one this week, and we sent her on a break while we done some xrays (H and S) and she went called down, said she had nothing to do, so could she go home. She missed some awesome op's that day, and pissed off one of very few training practices in this area!!!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Nick Shackleton — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:34:57 GMT

I love a bit of cleaning good way of taking frustration out!!!

I remember once at Christmas I scrubbed a flight of stairs with Cif cos they that mucky!! Someone said "we have a cleaner to do that Nick"

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Kim Buckley — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:34:50 GMT

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I found the one we have this week having a nap in the waiting room!

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One of the other nurses told me he asked the vet when she would have to open up a dog again so she could remove the internal ligatures following a bitch spay! haha

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Kerry Spain — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:34:16 GMT

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We had one who took herself off to waiting room and sat in a chair telling clients she was bored!!!!!!

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ooooooooooooh *SLAP*

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Vicky RVN — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:32:26 GMT

We had one who took herself off to waiting room and sat in a chair telling clients she was bored!!!!!!

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Vicky RVN — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:45 GMT

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I found the one we have this week having a nap in the waiting room!

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Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Nick Shackleton — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:28 GMT

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I get sooooo annoyed when work experience ask something to do and so you get them to sweep and mop the floor and they blatently think they are above this and so do a very half hearted job! I always end up doing it again!

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I used to hate watching W. Exp 'trying' to mop floors!!!

they do it so half heartedly!!! Proper winds me up!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Vicky RVN — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:26 GMT

I remember a work exp turning around and saying no to clean because they were "there for work exp"...HELLO, do you see us cleaning?! YES!!! So bloody clean or GET OUT!!!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Kim Buckley — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:09 GMT

I found the one we have this week having a nap in the waiting room!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Vicky RVN — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:30:13 GMT

Oooooooo don't get me started on work experience...

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Kim Buckley — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:29:30 GMT

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Vicky RVN — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:29:19 GMT

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Just the way it should be I HATE it when their is a divide between QVN/SVN...have seen it, wasn't nice!

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Alana Dent — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:28:03 GMT

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\that is the way it should be! people should remember what is was like training and learning, and i love being able to take a step back and watch the people who i have helped to train, and confidence build do their thing!!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Nick Shackleton — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:26:24 GMT

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I HATE ppl who think cleaning is below them!

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Kerry Spain — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:25:06 GMT

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Alana Dent — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:10:42 GMT

I always thought, that in the eyes of the law, that a vet nurse can do no more than a member of the public unless under the direction of a vet, we can only administer basic 1st aid (please if wrong i need to learn!! hehe).

Now most of us are RVNs, and there-fore responsible for ourselves, but ANA's are stil under the direction of a vet, if they are administering meds, including wormers and flea treatment, so any problems are related back to the vet, it shouldnt be about what thatr HN lets you do!

As a RVN, who often works in a short-staffed practice, the more ANA's can do (provided that they know the consequences of what can happen)the better, but saying that, i stil think it is the Vn's or Vets job to place IV's, take bloods etc unless your ANA has been trained,and is always supevised by a qualifed member of staff. I agree with what has been said, i take pride in spending time with my patients, getting them to eat, grooming them, and making them feel as at home as possible, but at the same time, ANA's often have more to learn, so they can feed/groom etc while i make my hospital clean and germ free!!!!

Be proud, ANA, VN, RVN or Vet, we all have the same target, to make that animal better, feel loved, and to grab cuddles with them whenever possible!!!!

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

paula morgan — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:52:06 GMT

Nicky, I also enjoy spending time with the patients grooming, feeding, just giving a cuddle etc but am I allowed to do that as an ANA? I totally agree with your post about the cleanliness of the practice being vital aswell

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paula morgan — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:46:03 GMT

I take it by laystaff you mean ANAs? I never said all QVNs treat trainees and "laystaff"bad but some do I can assure you, and I actually agree with you about students doing things unsupervised it shouldnt happen but back to the op what can ANAs do exactly? As for cleaning as I am sure anyone in my practice will verify I LOVE cleaning and like someone else said I take pride in the area I work in and try and take the cleaning workload off the QVNs to allow them to do the job they are trained to do.

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Sal the 1st — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:00:30 GMT

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This thread is starting to annoy me. Cleaning does ot stop when you are a QVN nd cleaning is for the good of our patients to prevent infections etc, not just for the HN to give people something to do. There is more to nursing than placing cannulas etc - what about spending time with patients encouraging them to eat, grooming, walking etc, spending time talking to worried clients etc. There is no point in doing your job if all your patients get infections from your hospital. I take a pride in ensuring our clinic in spotless and infection free and that is a vital part of my job, as much as placing cannulas etc.

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- well said, I might be qualified but there is nothing that says I dont have to get down on my hands and knees and scrub a floor and make sure the place was generally clean and presentable- and I was still doing that on a daily basis right up till the end of my last job. I also took a bit of an exception to an earlier comment about QVNs treating training and laystaff badly - I never have, and have never allowed it any place I have worked. If treating trainees or laystaff badly is preventing trainees or laystaff doing stuff that they should not be doing /or shouldnt be doing unsupervised (through lack of experience) then yes I guess I am guilty of that one - but I will do my damndest to make sure that they do get the experience in a safe environment (and that means safe to the patient as well). I will never prevent anybody from learning but I do feel that there are a lot of people in this job that want the responsibilities without learning the stuff that goes behind it - I am not and will never be in favour of shortcuts.

Re: What can animal auxiliary nurses do?

Rapunzel — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:35:47 GMT

Spot on Nicky VN! Couldn't have put it better myself.