Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Maisy — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:23:29 GMT

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Also in response to an earlier post as far as I am concerned scaling and polishing should be a schedule 3 procedure. Remember schedule 3 procedures are the procedures that we can do as VN's RVN's and SVN's. i.e it should not be some thing that unqualified members of staff do.

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It should be, but there are lots of other things that should also be Sch3 too such as monitoring anaesthetics but it's unlikely they will be. Rubbish really.

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Frith — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:33:29 GMT

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You're not removing the teeth, so get away with it in that respect, but for rasping molars you are technically entering the oral cavitiy I spose.....

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It's not really about entering a body cavity, it's weather it is minor or major surgery, it is a common misconception that it is the term oral cavity that prevents us doing dental extractions.

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Maisy — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:11:18 GMT

Rabbit/guinea pig dentals (so long as not extracting teeth) can be undertaken by VNs, and I guess even unqualified staff as it is part of the training 'rodentologists' receive (count youselves lucky if you've never had one of these phoning your practice saying they will come and teach the vets how to do small furry dentistry!!)

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Rachel Jayne — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:23:19 GMT

I've always wondered about bunjies - I've always done burring incisors with the high speed drill, and have helped rasp molars before too.

You're not removing the teeth, so get away with it in that respect, but for rasping molars you are technically entering the oral cavitiy I spose.....

It's a really grey area.

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

kitten — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:44:45 GMT

what about rabbit dentals, ie burring teeth can we do that?

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Maisy — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:29:33 GMT

I think with scale/polishing teeth its meant to be one of those tasks that there should be some supervision, but I don't think its a sch3 procedure.

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

albatross — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:25:48 GMT

just to broaden the subject question a bit - are unqualified nurses not meant to do cleaning and descaling unsupervised/supervised/can do it anyway?

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Heidi O'Toole — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:21:15 GMT

ta! Yeah, its a tough one. I just wondered! Its an ongoing talk in my place! :P x

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Frith — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:49:08 GMT

Don't get me started on this. As we have disscussed many times in the past there is no list of things we can and can't do, only the rather ambiguous statement of "minor surgery not entering a body cavity". That clearly rules out many procedures, like bitch spays and fracture fixation. But when it comes to dental extractions this statement on it's own is not particularly useful.

However the RCVS consider dental extraction requiring instruments is an act of major surgery, and therefore should not be done. What this means is that if a complaint is made and you are a registered nurse, it is unlikely to be a positive outcome.

Re: Tooth Extractions-legalities.

Kim Buckley — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:12:09 GMT

Yes. The only exception is if you can pull the tooth out using your fingers.