Dental - What do you recommend?

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Vicky RVN — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:27:46 GMT

Ah good glad they were only joking! The girls at my place would prob be the same lol "what a bad owner you are"!!!

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loobylou — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:20:03 GMT

Nah they were only messing!! Saying what a nightmare client the owner of the dog was, never listens to what the nurses tell her!!

I do find it difficult to recommend brushing to clients as I dont do it myself. We have the virbac oral rinse in stock but also seen the aquadent that you add to the drinking water.

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Claire Cameron — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:17:26 GMT

Hi Looby

http://www.genitrix.co.uk/2008ProductsDogs-Dentagen2.php

We use the Dentagen wax immediately after scale and polish, then advise the Dentagen Aqua. Also use Logic gel with good results too

Hope Jack is ok

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Vicky RVN — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:17:05 GMT

That's not very nice of them giving you a hard time, there is no point making a dog stressed on a daily basis if they really don't like it. At least you've given him a dental when he needed it rather than just leaving it. I've not used the things you've asked about so don't know how good they are.

I've just thought, Jack loves chewing on his rawhide bone so that's poss helping keep his teeth healthy - they are nice and shiny, but then he's only 2.

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loobylou — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:11:26 GMT

Does anyone have any experience of using any of the rinses/ water additives? Or the logic gel?

My 7 year old dog has had his third scale and polish today, his teeth were pretty awful. He was older when I got him and I never could get him to take to brushing. The only think he will chew is the dentastix which Im not really keen on. One- I think they are two soft to have any kind of abrasive effect and two dont want him to get fat
Ive had a hard time from the other nurses at work today for not brushing his teeth

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Rachel Jayne — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:14:32 GMT

[quote user="Bouncyfi"]CW oral bars have to be fed every day to make any difference, as its the mechanical action of chewing which is keeping the teeth clean. RCW oral bars don't have anything in them to prevent plaque or tartar, so cutting them down to 2-3 week is pointless. RCW bars are only 50kcal for the small bar & 80kcal for the large bar, so maybe this could be accounted for in the diet.[/quote]

I was referring to the pedigree sticks, I really don't see them being that effective. The RC ones are ok tho.

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Vicky RVN — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:32:51 GMT

Sounds like Bonnie is like Jack, speedy chewer! So might be nice to get something that lasts longer.

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Fiona Leathers — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:28:20 GMT

Yes it took Cher nearly 15 minutes to eat her's, Bonnie took about 5 minutes (which is really slow for her). With RCW Oral Cher is about 5 mins and Bonnie 30 secs

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Vicky RVN — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:26:34 GMT

Jack is in a real habit with his oral bars, when we went on holiday in Oct i forgot to take them so went to a pet shop to get some pedigree ones for the week! Ok, i'm being thick...when you say lasted longer do you mean the dogs took longer to eat it?! If i got Dentagen i'd have to get something else for the in between days! I suppose he could always have his RC one then.

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Fiona Leathers — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:20:21 GMT

Haved used both in my dogs - Dentagen definitely lasted longer than any other bars, but are slightly more expensive. The dogs didn't really care which bar they got, as long as they got one and as I usually give a bar on my way back to work after lunch, the hounds weren't impressed on the days they didn't get it!! Dentagen folks say you can cut them in half if you wanted to give it daily, but they're pretty tough to cut!

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Vicky RVN — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:17:28 GMT

Hmm that's interesting about the Dentagen bars. Sounds like they should work better than the oral bars. What do people think of them? I was in the habit of brushing Jacks teeth daily or every other day if i forgot and an oral bar every night (he loves them and sits waiting for it at bed time!). But i'm a bad mummy and have fallen out of the habit of brushing...it doesn't help that he doesn't like it and runs away from the toothbrush - he doesn't mind licking the toothpaste off the brush though

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Fiona Leathers — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:13:08 GMT

[quote user="Rachel Jayne"]

I'm a royal-canin-ite so would always rx RCW Dental and or the chews.
I discourage "daily" denta sticks, as I find every obesity clinic client feeds their dog them & cutting them down to 2 or 3 a week helps.

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RCW oral bars have to be fed every day to make any difference, as its the mechanical action of chewing which is keeping the teeth clean. RCW oral bars don't have anything in them to prevent plaque or tartar, so cutting them down to 2-3 week is pointless. RCW bars are only 50kcal for the small bar & 80kcal for the large bar, so maybe this could be accounted for in the diet.

However if you want to keep it at 2-3 bars per week, move onto the Dentagen bars which have RF2 in them, designed to be fed every second day and help prevent the build up of plaque by the RF2 changing the biofilm in the mouth, therefore plaque doesn't stick to the teeth.

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Vicky RVN — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:37 GMT

[quote user="Rachel Jayne"]I discourage "daily" denta sticks, as I find every obesity clinic client feeds their dog them & cutting them down to 2 or 3 a week helps.[/quote]

Jack has a royal canin oral bar every night and he's a perfect size

We recommend tooth brushing but not many people do it. Also have rc dental food and oral bars, and plaque off sells well. But after going to a CPD done by a dental vet (Lisa Miela i think) i was put off of it as they haven't tested it for long term use, and to weather it would cause health problems? The CPD vet wasn't keen on it at all.

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Steph Phillips — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:11:51 GMT

Same as above: is it needs a good clean out, we reccommend that. . but we use royal canin dental.. also recc Plaque off / DentagenAqua along with maxiguard

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Kerry Spain — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:47:55 GMT

If it's a youngster then brushing and a preventative diet such as Hill's oral care.

If the teeth already have tartar the we advise GA dental +/- extractions and a scale and polish then brushing and Hill's T/D to prevent it happening again.

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Nicola Smith — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:37:36 GMT

Brushing with enzymatic as best thing. If not dentagen or plaque off. My dog has his brushed and dentagen chews every other day

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Rachel Jayne — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:34:53 GMT

I've had a few clients take up toothbrushing with some success, I always try & drop it into a puppy clinic, telling the O to get the pup used to having it's teeeth looked at & brushed if possible, the earlier you can get them on board with dental care the better, as we all know.

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Anonymous — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:21:44 GMT

We recommend brushing with virbac enzymatic toothpaste. If that isn't accepted then we advice plaque off and hills t/d, and logic orozyme chews.

I run the puppy parties at my practice and one of the things that I demonstrate is toothbrushing and how easily puppies canaccept it from a young age. We also give a free tube of the virbac enzymatic toothpaste and a finger brusher to the puppies that come to the party. I would say that 90% of the clients at the party buy the full tooth brushing kit by the end of the party. Also because we then do monthly puppy checks the clients that werent able to go to the puppy party get taught how to brush teeth.

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Fiona Leathers — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:44:02 GMT

Have CEVA got something new in the offing??

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Saskia Quinn — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:26:39 GMT

In my old practice, we encouraged clients to start brushing their pets teeth from an early age. Logic oral hygiene gel and plaque off would have been very popular.

Every dental patient went home with logic oral gel.

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Shelly vn — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:04:47 GMT

I always recommended brushing first, but my other product of choice is Plaque off. My mum has 2 little terriers and the plaque off has worked wonders on their stinky breath and their teeth look amazing!

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Steph Worsley — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:56:17 GMT

nothing really being a referral pratice but use logic for my monsters!!!

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Emma Purnell — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:57:20 GMT

We currently push brushing as gold star standard with a good toothbrush and the Logic toothpaste to make it a bit more tempting.

If this is out of the question we move on to the PlaqueOff, Royal Canin Oral Bars or Dental food, Aquadent water supplement, Chlorhexidine mouth rinses... we have all sorts!