British Veterinary Union

Re: British Veterinary Union

Heather Christie — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:12:13 GMT

[quote user="Caro Laithwaite"]

No Mrs Dot Dot not put a disclaimer before l got that idea from someone else but forgotton who now. Anyhow l figure as l put my foot in my mouth so many times l should maybe make a start on some discalimers just to be on the safe side.

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I believe you got the idea from me on the human drugs 4 animals post. Unless someone else is doing it as well lol

Re: British Veterinary Union

Sal the 1st — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:26:11 GMT

Does this have anything to do with the union proposed by Shams Mir ? who seems to have dropped off the radar after his 5 mins of fame. If so as I recall (and feel free to correct me anybody) the union would have been primarily for vets and nurses may be allowed to join at a later date. If so I personally feel it will be of little use to nursing staff

having worked in a union environment - to the extent that it was closed shop in the factories I personally would think twice about union membership. I have been a member of several and the are all pretty much the same

http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/forums/p/784/2526.aspx#2526

Re: British Veterinary Union

Dippy — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:58:11 GMT

As I see it, I can't think of any help or legal advice that you can't already get from ACAS, BVNA or a local solicitor, most of whom do the first hour free anyway. Having worked in a unionised environment before (NHS), there were only negatives as the union give you a hard time if you don't fall in with the majority views ie going on strike, working to rule etc. I'd rather take my chances on my own and make sure I know my rights!

Re: British Veterinary Union

Caro Laithwaite VN — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:43:27 GMT

Angel was my YUCK! really a no in a roundabout way? hell l must be slipping if my feelings are that unclear thats why l am obviously upsetting people. I do not make myself clear enough.

See Mrs Dot Dot another reason why my disclaimer helps.

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:41:20 GMT

Re: British Veterinary Union

Mrs Dot Dot — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:36:24 GMT

[quote user="Caro Laithwaite"]

my views on unions and reasons can be found post dealing with the creatures scattered on this and the old forum wont bore old times with them surfice to say unions are total and at least has a use it clears the stomach dunno what good unions are other than as money making machines.

Spare me that they can do so much yadda yadda.

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This is a polite post brought to you by Caro VN who feels that her true feelings about unions would cause upset if she was to voice her true comments and feelings so a compromise on tone and words was used. Please note that her feelings are a lot stronger than voiced here.

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Caro! You make me chuckle!!! What's going on with you? Are you being sued or something? and feel you have to put a disclaimer after every post to cover yourself! hehe!

A union just wouldn't work in the vet business..... it's a caring profession, especially among the nurses, and yes, I would like better pay, better conditions, more appreciation for what we (nurses) do etc etc but I couldn't just stop what I'm doing because it's the end of a shift, if you are not happy with your conditions you try to move on (I know not everyones circumstances allow for this) and stipulate better conditions for your new job.... after you qualify/get older it allows you to be more forthright with your oppinions and hopefully allow you to have confidence to stand up for yourself (again I know that this is not always possible and also depends on the type of person you are).

The RCVS is also abit of a closed shop at times and this would make a union unworkable in alot of situations.

Re: British Veterinary Union

Caro Laithwaite VN — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:22:34 GMT

Spare me that they can do so much yadda yadda.

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Re: British Veterinary Union

Angel — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:30:04 GMT

To those who have said "no" in a roundabout sort of way. What are your views? Do you think that there are not any major issues that could benefit the support of a united force?

Let me give some examples:

Working conditions: - being expected to work in such a manner that you have to work all day and end up being on call all night, then are still expected to do a full day directly after the night on call, regardless if you had a 2am caesar or GDV!

being expected to manually restrain an animal whilst taking x rays

being shouted at in front of other staff members for not doing something....

but to name a few.

Re: British Veterinary Union

Angel — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:15:37 GMT

Thanks for your comments so far.

Fiona A, would you feel any different if a union was able to deliver?

Re: British Veterinary Union

FionaA — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:17:25 GMT

Checked it out online; it costs around £11 per month or £132 per year to join unite. Unite is the biggest union in the UK therefore joining fees are probably kept down due to the volume of people joining. I don't think an independant Veterinary Union could provide complrehensive services for such a low membership cost.

Sorry if this shounds horribly negative but my previous experience of union was that they were good at taking the money and pretty rubbish at delivering the service!

Re: British Veterinary Union

FionaA — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:11:46 GMT

Having worked in a unionised environment before what I would expect is that joining a union would cost a lot of my hard earned money. How much does it cost to become a member of the Unite union? (I'm off to surf to see if I can find out)

Also unions usually require a member of staff of a particular business to be the union representative, I can't see this working in vet practice as the Rep could be a receptionist, how could they then assist an assistant vet who was having a problem with the managing partner. I can't think of any other businesses that are predominantly small business based where a unionised environment exists; although I am happy to be corrected!

Re: British Veterinary Union

Carol Cottrell — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:13:41 GMT

Sorry but ditto!

Re: British Veterinary Union

Caro Laithwaite VN — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:04:29 GMT

yuck