travel distress

Re: travel distress

chris beasley — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:26:52 GMT

Thanks for your replies everyone. Puo is really happy in crate at home and at work so its definatly car orginated.

Will adv collar to be tightened and see!

Re: travel distress

Lucy Brett — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:47:37 GMT

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The pup has travelled twice with one of it litter mates and was fine. So I dont think it is a car issue. She has also sat the pup in the car without moving and it was fine. But when the cage is in the car with the intent of bringing it to work, the pup starts dribbling as soon as it sees the cage.

Why does the collar need to be a snug fit? Is it a problem if it is slightly lose.

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Yes, it is very important. If the collar is not warm it will not release the pheromone. It should be snug. That may well be the problem.

Lucy

Re: travel distress

Vicky RVN — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:07:02 GMT

I can imagine the crate could be quite noisy when the pup is sat in it while the car is moving, which could be quite scary. Does the pup go in the crate in the home? Rather than use a crate could they use a dog guard/car harness?

Re: travel distress

Fiona Leathers — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:47:49 GMT

Body heat make the collar work so the snugger the fit, the better. If the dog is fine in the car, except when then crate is in the car, I would suggest its a crate issue rather than a car issue.

Has something happened in the crate - either in the car or out?? Does the puppy not want to go to work - is the crate only used when at work??

Monitor its behaviour in the crate in different situations - maybe the crate is the problem but we're assuming the car is the problem.

Re: travel distress

chris beasley — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:45:28 GMT

Why does the collar need to be a snug fit? Is it a problem if it is slightly lose.

Re: travel distress

Lucy Brett — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:03:15 GMT

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what about cerenia? I dont know the min age though, would need to look it up. But it may get the pup over the fear of nausea associated with travelling. DAP works on a lot of animals, but nothing works for everyone.

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Yes, I would agree. If you have tried treating the stress and it is still happening it may be that the dog is motion sick rather than fearful of travel. What do you think?

Lucy

Re: travel distress

Lucy Brett — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:00:44 GMT

Needs to be snug. How tight is it? x

Re: travel distress

hobbits — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:50:12 GMT

Re: travel distress

Maisy — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:23:12 GMT

As far as I know it could be used for any age animal as the active ingredient is only casein which is found in milk. This is what binds to certain brain receptors to alleviate stress and produce a more calming influence. You can give it short term if the apparent stress is likely to be a one off, or longer for issues like fireworks. The rep came out and spoke to us the other day about it, apparently there will be an equivalent brought out for humans soon too!

Re: travel distress

chris beasley — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:55:51 GMT

That was a discussion I had with pups owner today. Need to read up a little more first.EG regarding age and how it works?

Thanks

Re: travel distress

Maisy — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:46:07 GMT

What about Zylkene? Have had some good results using it for cats, but it is reportedly equally as good for dog stressy behaviours too.

Re: travel distress

chris beasley — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:36:36 GMT

Puppy has been wearing DAP collar a week now . To my dismay she is still drooling lots, It even continues when she is out of the car for about half a hour.

Company of animals gave puppies mum some herbal travel calming drops at BVNA this weekend, So far no change!

Its very disappointing to see a product which I have recommended to clients for years, not work on some ones pet who you see daily ,still suffering.

Re: travel distress

chris beasley — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:44:50 GMT

Put a dap collar on the puppy 48hrs ago. Has been to the surgery twice so far . Is dribbling coupious amounts each time.

Does anyone know how long it takes to take effect?

Re: travel distress

chris beasley — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:00:40 GMT

Hi there. its a wire cage she uses. I think she does cover it with a blanket in the car. So I think she is sorting out the problem with the movement outside.

Re: travel distress

Katie Tallett RVN MBVNA — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:13:49 GMT

is it a metal or fabric crate she uses??

i find the fabric crates help calm dogs much more as they are darker and don't rattle so much. also they can't see out as easily so settle down much better.

Re: travel distress

Fiona Leathers — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:21:19 GMT

DAP collar would be ideal for a puppy, especially for travelling, DAP spray only lasts 45mins once sprayed so the effect can wear off before the end of the journey. Also it might be an idea to try cerenia tablets. These knock out the vomiting centre in the brain, therefore not making them drool or vomit. No-one is quite sure if dogs get motion sickness or if they vomiting in the car, then get anxious about vomiting in the car, which adds to problem. If you use cerenia a couple of times they may stop being anxious as they no longer feel sick. You could also try Scullcap & Valerian tablets, as these can be used for travel sickness, although I would have to check the label due to her age.

Cerenia tablets can be pricey but usually help a great deal. DAP collars can also be used post-op to help calm the patient down, so I think it would be definitely worthwhile!

Re: travel distress

Vicky RVN — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:25:58 GMT

I did eventually get to bed...a bit tired at college today, oops! Will try not to do portfolio till that time tonight!!!

Aww poor little puppy dog Hmmm sorry can't suggest anything that i can think of at the mo. However i did get a new book at college today, Handbook of Behaviour Problems in the Dog and Cat. Will see if there is anything in there!

Re: travel distress

chris beasley — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:20:42 GMT

Hi guys - Hope you eventually had a good nights sleep.

Bad news about pups leg. Fractured radius and ulna. Did a pinning this morning. She is such a darling.

I have never been so worried about a GA. Strange when you know the owner is part of the practice staff. She said she knew she was in good hands. But her mum is always there to make you feel better if you are doubting yourself.

Still, everthing went well. Post-op x ray looked very good. At that age it should heal quickly.

Back to the travel problem. She is fine in the car that is not moving. Has a cage inside car which she loves. I think it is a confidence problem. Her mum has 4 other poodles and she is happy if she is with another dog inside the cage, but not if they are caged beside her.

Re: travel distress

Saskia Quinn — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:26:52 GMT

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Sorry Chris, we've taken over the thread a bit

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me too Chris

night xxx

Re: travel distress

Vicky RVN — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:23:07 GMT

Sorry Chris, we've taken over the thread a bit

Re: travel distress

Vicky RVN — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:21:55 GMT

Hmmm yep time for bed too i think. Got college tomorrow, leave home at 9 ish, would like to get Jack out for an hours walk before, so 7am start for me too!

Night night x

Re: travel distress

Saskia Quinn — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:19:45 GMT

put Jack out of his misery and get to bed lol

I have 2 greyhounds sprawled at my feet, 2 little men snoring in bed, Tabitha (my rabbit) nibbling at my pyjama bottoms and Rosie has been asleep on my feet for so long now that I cannot even feel them

Time for bed me thinks up at 7am

Re: travel distress

Vicky RVN — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:16:47 GMT

It's just so bloody faffy, ticking off stuff and trying to make sure i include as much as i can so i don't have to do too many case logs! Think i'll have to give up soon...Jack won't go to bed without me, he's pacing wanting to go to bed! He'll get in bed with me for a while, then go off to his beanbag (wasn't his but he's now stolen it!) to sleep until he jumps on me in the morning!

Re: travel distress

Saskia Quinn — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:12:44 GMT

Indeed, I know what you mean, my portfolio was 9 years ago and I found it difficult. I can only begin to imagine how much worse it is now

Re: travel distress

Vicky RVN — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:07:53 GMT

Teehee Paula, you make me giggle! Not really sure why i found that amusing...probably something to do with being sat here doing portfolio