grey squirrels

Re: grey squirrels

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:47:23 GMT

[quote user="Caro Laithwaite"]

sighs she is hard to please first avoids fur, then complains that greys are not purples, ignores dye (the stuff that colourises) and bet she willthen say it is to expensive.....tsk!

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lol Caro you make me laugh

Re: grey squirrels

Caro Laithwaite VN — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 08:14:03 GMT

sighs she is hard to please first avoids fur, then complains that greys are not purples, ignores dye (the stuff that colourises) and bet she willthen say it is to expensive.....tsk!

Re: grey squirrels

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:42:41 GMT

[quote user="Nick Shackleton"]

[quote user="STRVN"]

Ok, am gonna be outa there......... dont like fur ..........but waste not want not IMO. I await the "fur bashing" ...!!!!!!!!

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Least they aint been farmed for fur, kept in wire cages inc the base no substrate and little room to move around!!!

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lol, exactly so I need a new pair of boots........... ah but they are not purple!!!!!!!!

Re: grey squirrels

Nick Shackleton — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:33:11 GMT

[quote user="STRVN"]

Ok, am gonna be outa there......... dont like fur ..........but waste not want not IMO. I await the "fur bashing" ...!!!!!!!!

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Least they aint been farmed for fur, kept in wire cages inc the base no substrate and little room to move around!!!

Re: grey squirrels

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:31:42 GMT

Ok, am gonna be outa there......... dont like fur ..........but waste not want not IMO. I await the "fur bashing" ...!!!!!!!!

Re: grey squirrels

Claire Cameron — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:21:38 GMT

[quote user="Caro Laithwaite"]

There is a guy up kelder way doing the culling making a good living selling the meat. So greys are good for something.

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Same here!

Re: grey squirrels

Rapunzel — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:16:23 GMT

The virus referred to is a form of Pox Virus.

Re: grey squirrels

Caro Laithwaite VN — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:56:59 GMT

There is a guy up kelder way doing the culling making a good living selling the meat. So greys are good for something.

Re: grey squirrels

Nick Shackleton — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:54:58 GMT

A deadly squirrel disease which only affects reds could see the species disappear from some of its last remaining English strongholds within a decade, according to scientists from London's Queen Mary University.

Previously scientists believed that grey squirrels were wiping out native reds simply by taking over their habitats, but an international study has blamed a virus which they transmit to the red population, killing them within a fortnight.

Scientists studied Cumbria and Norfolk, where the virus had broken out, and compared them with Scotland and Italy, where there was no trace of the disease, and found the reds' population area decline was up to 25 times worse where they were exposed to the disease.

A selective, small-scale cull of grey squirrels has been achieved in Kielder Forest, Northumberland, after experts analysed the red squirrel refuge and identified four areas through which where greys could get access.

Squirrel refuges

There are now plans to apply the approach to England's other 15 squirrel refuges in Cumbria, Northumberland, North Yorkshire and Merseyside.

Red squirrels have been in Britain for the last 10,000 years and are protected under the UK's Wildlife and Countryside Act, while domineering greys - which appear unaffected by the virus - were introduced from the United States more than 100 years ago.

Tony Sainsbury, lecturer in wild animal health at the Zoological Society of London, added: "The cases seen by ZSL's national red squirrel disease surveillance programme clearly demonstrate the severity and debilitating nature of the squirrel poxvirus disease on red squirrels.

"Given that the grey squirrel is an introduced species, and therefore the disease has occurred as a consequence of human action, the onus is very much on us to look for practical solutions to control the disease and protect red squirrels from this fatal disease.

"Our work concludes that targeted control is the most viable way forward."

Re: grey squirrels

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:50:19 GMT

I have not read the links, so correct me if this is already in either of them........ Grey squirrels carry something...cant remember what , that is harmful to the red squirrel, they themselves appear to be immune to it but it has infected the red population to the point that we dont see them anymore due to this infection........... so if you want to see our native reds , then we need to get rid of the grey ones.

Re: grey squirrels

A Little TLC — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:46:37 GMT

I hate the word vermin. Humans are the worst kind. populating the entire planet whether they should or not.

Re: grey squirrels

Maisy — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:15:57 GMT

Tree rats

It appears though that transmission of lepto can be carried by quite a lot of wildlife found in this country in general, some of which cause more hassle to farmers/trees/structures than squirrels.

Re: grey squirrels

Sal the 1st — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:09:44 GMT

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/greysquirrel

http://www.redsquirrels.info/barkstripping.html

and besides that the little bleeders used to dig up all my flower bulbs in the garden

Re: grey squirrels

Claire Cameron — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:09:38 GMT

[quote user="Snowb"]

[quote user="Nick Shackleton"]

[quote user="MissVetNurse"]

I'm expecting a lot of abuse for this......

but, IMHO they are vermin, same as pigeons....

I pose the question....

What would you do if someone brought a sewer rat in for treatment?

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Totally agree grey squirrels aren't even native to this country FFS

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Rats are carriers of diseases, as far as i'm aware grey squirrels aren't, please correct me if i'm wrong!

No the Greys aren't native but they have been here for years and have already displaced the Reds in most places, so it would be an impossible job to cull them all and allow re-colonisation of the Reds. (And i'm sure they are also necessary in seed dispersal)

Plus they're very cute, love watching them in my garden

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Leptospirosis
http://wildlife1.wildlifeinformation.org/S/00dis/Bacterial/Leptospirosis.html

Squirrel Parapoxvirus Infection
http://wildlife1.wildlifeinformation.org/S/00dis/viral/Squirrel_Parapox_Infection.html

Re: grey squirrels

Snowb — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:04:10 GMT

[quote user="Nick Shackleton"]

Grey Squirrels = tree rats

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LOL

Re: grey squirrels

Snowb — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:03:26 GMT

ok true, but was thinking more about this country! Cat/Dogs/Bats/Foxes ect all do too!

Re: grey squirrels

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:03:23 GMT

Grey Squirrels = tree rats

Re: grey squirrels

Sal the 1st — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:02:00 GMT

they can be very destructive to trees tho - and they are known to eat birds eggs.

Re: grey squirrels

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:01:34 GMT

SQUIRRELS CAN CARRY RABIES

Re: grey squirrels

Maisy — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:58:05 GMT

[quote user="Snowb"]

Rats are carriers of diseases, as far as i'm aware grey squirrels aren't, please correct me if i'm wrong!

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My reasons exactly. If squirrels passed on the same diseases to the extent wild rats do, I'd agree with culling but as far as I'm aware they don't.

Re: grey squirrels

Snowb — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:54:35 GMT

[quote user="Nick Shackleton"]

[quote user="MissVetNurse"]

I'm expecting a lot of abuse for this......

but, IMHO they are vermin, same as pigeons....

I pose the question....

What would you do if someone brought a sewer rat in for treatment?

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Totally agree grey squirrels aren't even native to this country FFS

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Rats are carriers of diseases, as far as i'm aware grey squirrels aren't, please correct me if i'm wrong!

Plus they're very cute, love watching them in my garden

Re: grey squirrels

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:43:14 GMT

[quote user="MissVetNurse"]

I'm expecting a lot of abuse for this......

but, IMHO they are vermin, same as pigeons....

I pose the question....

What would you do if someone brought a sewer rat in for treatment?

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Totally agree grey squirrels aren't even native to this country FFS

Re: grey squirrels

Claire Cameron — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:41:38 GMT

I'm expecting a lot of abuse for this......

but, IMHO they are vermin, same as pigeons....

I pose the question....

What would you do if someone brought a sewer rat in for treatment?

Re: grey squirrels

A Little TLC — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:15:23 GMT

[quote user="Rapunzel"]

An exemption from the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 requirement that states the grey squirrel, as a non-native species, cannot be released back into the wild can be gained by special licence from English Nature. I expect Tiggywinkles would have one?

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they have indeed

Re: grey squirrels

Sal the 1st — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:01:03 GMT

not a squirrel but a Canada Goose -

got this from another nurse. Goose was brought into clinic - was salvageable but was pts because it was a non native species and could not be released. I thought they were migratory myself? but feel free to correct me anybody.