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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/nonclinical-discussions/4160/keds</link><description> The RSPCA told a member of the public to bring a bird to us the other day, nothing wrong with the poor thing like but never mind 
 We examined it and it was a house marten and COVERED in these massive lice looking creatures they were VILE 
 We managed</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40591?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:28:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:481c3c73-e6a2-42c7-9282-bbf193f60d0d</guid><dc:creator>Sal the 1st</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;its also worth mentioning the other critters you have identified are commonly found when they sort through the nests for birds nest soup &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40590?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:26:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:68c6bd90-a845-476f-8263-197289cb0d86</guid><dc:creator>Sal the 1st</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;remember a couple of us going to the pub one night straight from work and a number of these were seen to be crawling around on the bosses shirt &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img height="560" width="389" src="http://bugguide.net/images/cache/NHLR6HRRXHAZZLEZKL2ZZL2ZXHPZRLVHKLDH5HAHIHTHHLPZRL2ZSL8ZZLDH9H9Z8L1Z7LGZQL4ZGH1H7HVH7H8Z.jpg" alt="Bird Louse" title="Bird Louse" class="bgimage-image" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and ok this is a bit bigger than they really are - but believe me they are still quite visible to the naked eye even in a darkish pub!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40577?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:10:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:b92c6ec7-06c6-4346-9cb3-d044529273e5</guid><dc:creator>Claire  Cameron</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;ewww thats them. gross!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40562?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:45:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:ea1882ee-3679-4202-be2d-2cc7e4a8a936</guid><dc:creator>Mrs Dot Dot</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Kimbo1985&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Caro Laithwaite&amp;quot;] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have to say l just moved my hands figured l couldn&amp;#39;t do anything else. No point jumping around all over the place wish l had seen that. But then l scrape maggots out of wounds with bare fingers easier than gloves and a lot quicker.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;As much as I love demaggoting thing, there is no way you&amp;#39;d catch me doing it without gloves on! Yuck!!! &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Ditto!!!! Yuk! Yuk! Yuk!&amp;nbsp; I wouldn&amp;#39;t be able to feel like I could scrape everything out from under my fingernails...............................&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40553?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:17:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:2602d7df-db86-47c6-bcae-64e12821f222</guid><dc:creator>Kim Buckley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Caro Laithwaite&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;I have to say l just moved my hands figured l couldn&amp;#39;t do anything else. No point jumping around all over the place wish l had seen that. But then l scrape maggots out of wounds with bare fingers easier than gloves and a lot quicker.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;As much as I love demaggoting thing, there is no way you&amp;#39;d catch me doing it without gloves on! Yuck!!! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40547?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:07:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:cc0e63b8-88af-42d0-afba-449e9325a92f</guid><dc:creator>Caro Laithwaite VN</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I have to say l just moved my hands figured l couldn&amp;#39;t do anything else. No point jumping around all over the place wish l had seen that. But then l scrape maggots out of wounds with bare fingers easier than gloves and a lot quicker.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40397?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:03:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:29bbbf0a-5ffa-40db-8f73-09219df92ecf</guid><dc:creator>Charlotte says smile</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;ooh im glad I have never seen these before! they look horrible, just looking at the picture has made me feel all itchy!&lt;img src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/emoticons/emotion-41.gif" alt="Ick!" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40392?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:57:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:a775645f-5c08-46f9-bb11-487d58d61852</guid><dc:creator>Mrs Dot Dot</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Bouncyfi&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;They are fairly minging!!!&amp;nbsp; Might even freak me out&amp;nbsp; and I&amp;nbsp;am scared of nothing!!!! (&lt;span style="FONT-SIZE:xx-small;"&gt;except moths but don&amp;#39;t tell anyone&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;They are v v scarey when they are crawling around your hair....... and I&amp;#39;m not too much of a scary person!!!! They kind of buzz as well..........................&lt;img src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/emoticons/emotion-7.gif" alt="Tongue Tied" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40375?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:36:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:5f312144-002a-4e72-a56e-950d207dc090</guid><dc:creator>Fiona Leathers</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;They are fairly minging!!!&amp;nbsp; Might even freak me out&amp;nbsp; and I&amp;nbsp;am scared of nothing!!!! (&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;except moths but don&amp;#39;t tell anyone&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40366?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:20:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:25496cdc-9e16-4d79-9372-902d478f6c19</guid><dc:creator>Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Mrs Dot Dot&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/11/5710.14_5F00_oxford_5F00_swift_5F00_project_5F00_5.jpg"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/11/5710.14_5F00_oxford_5F00_swift_5F00_project_5F00_5.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Swift has some other insect associations. The largest of these is a host specific parasitic flat-fly with a pair of vestigial wings, &lt;em&gt;Crataerina pallida&lt;/em&gt;; this particular species of blood-feeding louse-fly is host specific to the Swift. An interesting feature of this insect is that it does not lay an egg but broods internally before laying a fully formed larva that immediately starts to pupate; when the pupa hatches into an adult it seeks to associate itself with a bird or seeks a nest of young Swifts. Other insect pests of the Common Swift consist of feather lice (&lt;em&gt;Mallophaga sp&lt;/em&gt;), ticks, fleas and mites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/11/3644.14_5F00_oxford_5F00_swift_5F00_project_5F00_6.jpg"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/11/3644.14_5F00_oxford_5F00_swift_5F00_project_5F00_6.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t know if this is similar but I guess this is what I had on me the other week, see other thread on creepy flat flies.... this says that this kind is specific to swifts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;#39;Edit&amp;#39;! Just realised it wasn&amp;#39;t a swift it was a kestrel I got flat flies off! Sunday afternoon gooey brain! Anyway this is a picture of a type of flat fly..........................&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Mrs D , that is what I saw, ewwwrgh!!!!!!!!!, gross but they do a job, which is to keep the swift parasite free. they look totally alien to me and made me cringe, but thanks for the pic&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40363?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:14:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:4eb4ec89-bc2c-4f03-b3f5-e6e29c677e5e</guid><dc:creator>Kim Buckley</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah I&amp;#39;ve seen these on swifts. Horrible things! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40360?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:09:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:414dbe4d-7a58-4dbb-abd5-e062f492d37c</guid><dc:creator>Mrs Dot Dot</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/11/5710.14_5F00_oxford_5F00_swift_5F00_project_5F00_5.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/11/5710.14_5F00_oxford_5F00_swift_5F00_project_5F00_5.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Swift has some other insect associations. The largest of these is a host specific parasitic flat-fly with a pair of vestigial wings, &lt;em&gt;Crataerina pallida&lt;/em&gt;; this particular species of blood-feeding louse-fly is host specific to the Swift. An interesting feature of this insect is that it does not lay an egg but broods internally before laying a fully formed larva that immediately starts to pupate; when the pupa hatches into an adult it seeks to associate itself with a bird or seeks a nest of young Swifts. Other insect pests of the Common Swift consist of feather lice (&lt;em&gt;Mallophaga sp&lt;/em&gt;), ticks, fleas and mites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/11/3644.14_5F00_oxford_5F00_swift_5F00_project_5F00_6.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/resized-image.ashx/__size/550x0/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/11/3644.14_5F00_oxford_5F00_swift_5F00_project_5F00_6.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#39;t know if this is similar but I guess this is what I had on me the other week, see other thread on creepy flat flies.... this says that this kind is specific to swifts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;#39;Edit&amp;#39;! Just realised it wasn&amp;#39;t a swift it was a kestrel I got flat flies off! Sunday afternoon gooey brain! Anyway this is a picture of a type of flat fly..........................&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40356?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:52:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:514b88d5-0f15-4df6-b903-9b4402577626</guid><dc:creator>Claire  Cameron</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;STRVN&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;Anyone got a pic of flat flies ot keds?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just wondering if they are the same as the parasites that live on swallows........... they look totally alien to me, and when I first saw them I actualy could not believe they were real as I had never seen anything like it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Miss VN your parasite sounds much like what I saw on the swallow, so maybe they are the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I do know is this &amp;quot;parasite &amp;quot;lives on the bird all its life and actually stops the bird from getting any other type of parasite.....ie it eats them, so&amp;nbsp; is more like a symbiot, rather than a parasite.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve tried googling for a photo but can&amp;#39;t find anything. They didn&amp;#39;t look like any flat flies I&amp;#39;d seen before, totally different.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wish I&amp;#39;d got a photo but couldn&amp;#39;t bear to have got close enough! &lt;img src="http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/emoticons/emotion-41.gif" alt="Ick!" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40354?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:50:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:f9c8d165-6fa1-4bba-83c3-bf422cdaaa95</guid><dc:creator>Claire  Cameron</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;[quote user=&amp;quot;Caro Laithwaite&amp;quot;]
&lt;p&gt;I know the things you mean have seen them on swans. Bit like quicksilver the way they glide about. Thick bodys squat and deinatly no wings. Usually appear when you have an arm full of swan.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;ugh they&amp;#39;re gross. Me and my boss were flapping around the back yard like a right pair of nutters trying to get away from them&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;EWWWWWWWWWW the thought makes me squirm&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/40353?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:48:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:82505d9f-48af-42aa-81f0-b6213446f932</guid><dc:creator>Caro Laithwaite VN</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I know the things you mean have seen them on swans. Bit like quicksilver the way they glide about. Thick bodys squat and deinatly no wings. Usually appear when you have an arm full of swan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/39938?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:25:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:91906b3f-4921-4796-9ead-88d1f6b1ebc2</guid><dc:creator>Mac Feather</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I think keds are kinda like flat flies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/39921?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:36:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:53e524ac-b52e-4f64-91d7-088de06e4be7</guid><dc:creator>Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone got a pic of flat flies ot keds?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just wondering if they are the same as the parasites that live on swallows........... they look totally alien to me, and when I first saw them I actualy could not believe they were real as I had never seen anything like it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Miss VN your parasite sounds much like what I saw on the swallow, so maybe they are the same.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I do know is this &amp;quot;parasite &amp;quot;lives on the bird all its life and actually stops the bird from getting any other type of parasite.....ie it eats them, so&amp;nbsp; is more like a symbiot, rather than a parasite.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/39900?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:03:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:64a79cc1-bc74-4856-805e-c33672b5faa6</guid><dc:creator>Nick Shackleton </dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;are keds not flat flies?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Keds</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/39872?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:34:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:23e2f809-8a0b-4a1a-9214-45681e573997</guid><dc:creator>Mac Feather</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Have heard of sheep (and goats I think,not sure) having infestations of keds.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>