Propoclear

Re: Propoclear

Sal the 1st — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:34:03 GMT

didnt I read recently that one of the major producers of propofol as we know it (Tiva, Isreal) has either already stopped production or is about to stop production of propofol very soon and that the other major producer is working towards only producing the reformulated product (which we know as propoclear). Are we looking at the end of the white stuff?

I have read the article mentioned in the link and will say from my personal experience of propofol it always burns like hell when I have had it so if propoclear stings more then I wouldnt fancy it!

Re: Propoclear

Kim Buckley — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:26:55 GMT

[quote user="Steph Worsley RVN MBVNA"]

I would suggest practices thinking about changing to propoclear to read a recent vet record article you need to pay or be a member to read it but here is the link

[/quote]My old practice moved onto propoclear for a while but then changed back onto propoflo for this very reason.

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Steph Worsley — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:09:27 GMT

I would suggest practices thinking about changing to propoclear to read a recent vet record article you need to pay or be a member to read it but here is the link

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Nick Shackleton — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:27:42 GMT

[quote user="Teri-Ann Baldwin"]

We to have not used propclear yet, I'm not sure if my vets even want to swap, which is bad as some weeks we open one bottle of propofol and have 3 ops but dont use it all and have to throw it away which is so wasteful. Also I think I may present them with this pros and cons list Nick so kindly put up!

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If you don't use that much you could always attach a injection spike that can be connected onto the top of the bottle

http://www.vygon.com/en/products/products.php?fam_id=243&prd_cde_movex=00085611&recherche=spike&page=1&file=products&retour=ok

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Teri-Ann Baldwin — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:14:53 GMT

Re: Propoclear

Nick Shackleton — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:45:40 GMT

They also said that you should only draw it up just beofre you use it due to the above comment plus more likely to get bacteria into it if left sat around for hours on end

Re: Propoclear

Fiona Leathers — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:42:38 GMT

It is smooth if you inject it straight after you have drawn it up, however goes sticky if its been lying for a few minutes before administration. Also agreeing with Staurt it does state on the box to be kept at room temp

Re: Propoclear

Stuart Ford-Fennah — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:18:18 GMT

I noticed someone stated when propoclear has been in the fridge its become foggy! this is a bad thing as propoclear is a solution not a emulsion (like propoflo/rapinovet). so you end up with a suspension instead of a solution! very bad to give iv as you can end with tiny 'crystal' of propofol floating around in the patients circulation --> bad news. so prob best dont refrigerate or make sure you warm it up well before injection. Propoclear also causes less discomfort in iv injection (doesnt feel as 'cold' or 'warm' cant remeber whihc been a long time since i had a GA) so less likley for a 'wimpy' patient to react ti injection.

Re: Propoclear

Kim Buckley — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:42:18 GMT

We've still not used propoclear. Waiting for our stock of propofol to run out. Will find out what the vets think once we've started using it.

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lskm 23 — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:48:01 GMT

Our vets have passed the same comment that its not as smooth to give as propofol.

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Jack — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:30:51 GMT

My boss got some in but has sent it all back and has gone back to using rapinovet. He said it was quite viscous and didn't like the feel of the injection whereas rapinovet is quite smooth. We also found we had to use nearly twice as much to get the same effect so it didn't work out any cheaper at all. We do get through a fair amount so we don't tend to get much waste anyway. He was also a little concerned about it getting mixed up with other clear drugs.

Re: Propoclear

Nick Shackleton — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:31:09 GMT

PropoClear Review:

PropoClear is a lipid free nano-droplet microemulsion
Contains 10mg/ml of active ingredient propofol
Target species: Dogs and cats
Crosses blood brain barrier rapidly
Rapidly distrubited within the body
Rapidly metabolised
Excreted in urine
Fast recovery
Potent short acting anaesthetic
must be used within 28 days once seal in broached (EU and US), 6mths AU
not to be used in patients ages <12 weeks
Product should be drawn up as required as drawing up and leaving in syringe may allow for bateria to accumulate
ensure product is clear prior to using

Can't find the bit about only being able to broach the seal ten times, but they have tested it up to 30 times with no effect, but am sure they suggested only broaching it ten times per bottle

Re: Propoclear

Claire Cameron — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:54:22 GMT

[quote user="Mrs Dot Dot"]

[quote user="Bouncyfi"]

Thank God!! I thought I was the only cheap skate!! Special pen? or Biro?

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Good old fashioned biro!

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Same here, good old tape and biro

OR if the label printer plays up we cut the blank bits of label up and write on them....not that we're cheap skates or anything

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Mrs Dot Dot — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:13:42 GMT

[quote user="Bouncyfi"]

Thank God!! I thought I was the only cheap skate!! Special pen? or Biro?

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Good old fashioned biro!

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Sally Howe — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:59:54 GMT

Micropore and biro here too.

We have got the labels for propoclear from the rep.

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Kim Buckley — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:40:40 GMT

Biro :)

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Fiona Leathers — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:37:41 GMT

Thank God!! I thought I was the only cheap skate!! Special pen? or Biro?

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Mrs Dot Dot — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:33:38 GMT

[quote user="Bouncyfi"]

Does no one write on a bit of tape any more???? Who needs to spend money on labels when we've got tape in the cupboard?

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We do.....we use micropore.

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Fiona Leathers — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:31:54 GMT

Does no one write on a bit of tape any more???? Who needs to spend money on labels when we've got tape in the cupboard?

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Nick Shackleton — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:01:54 GMT

Em these are the ones we use

http://www.infusionconcepts.com/Accessories/DLabels.html#Syringe

and if you can't find the ones you want they will print to order

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Emma Jarratt — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:28:46 GMT

Where do people buy their preprinted drug labels on to label syringes? Have looked at a few sites online but they all seem to be aimed towards human hospitals doing bulk orders (ie massive postage costs unless you order 100 boxes)

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:04:44 GMT

No Gill they told us at the meeting it is as Nick said an eu ruling the 28 days. In aus it is 6months and l think usa as well.

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Gillian Mostyn — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:47:31 GMT

I may be wrong (has been known) but I remember being told that 28 days is really a maximum as far as any drug is concerned. That is why convenia also has that shelf life - but probably does last longer.

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Nick Shackleton — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:27:39 GMT

right I've found the info will pick out all the usefull info and post on here tonight! the 28 days is an EU ruling!

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Night — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:54:32 GMT

The rep dropped the stuff of about this a couple of weeks ago with us. He said it's clear 'cause the lipids have been removed hence the fact it is licenced for use for 28days once seal is broken here.

I'd heard the same as Loobylou, 28 days UK but 6mths in Oz