Veg ?

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Angiy Michael — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:44:28 GMT

Would love to do a recipe exchange..have lots of veggie, vegan and meatie recipes as happily eat all three but have lots of veggie ones esp as even though meat eater nowadays find veggie cooking very straightforard and fun ..always looking for new ideas

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Sarah Cahill — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:05:26 GMT

I'm vegetarian, have been since I was 4, couldn't work all day trying to save animals and then go home and eat them! I don't eat gelatine, rennet or cochineal or red wine as some of it has fish in it. Apart from that I like most food!

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loopylou711 — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:46:55 GMT

least you care where your food comes from caro!! most people buy whatever is cheapest and most convient! sorry didnt mean that to sound like i was having ago! :)

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:26:18 GMT

Short of visiting each farm there is no way of knowing.
The rspca scheme is a joke and untrustworthy and l do not go by that,
The packaging info is very misleading and you have to know all the wording nuances
Just because it comes from uk is no guarantee it is any better than elsewhere in the world nor does it mean it isn't depends a lot on the item.
Finally cost is no guide because all it needs is a fancy title or picture on the front and you are paying for it.

If hub shops he just slings in what we need never really looks at cost just do we need it yes/no tick the bok.

When l shop l do the following in any order:
1) Go by cost - can l afford it l will not buy all the expensive stuff that is a rip off.
2)Try and decipher wording so that l can see how it was kept not easy.
3)Look at where it came from je Danish pork is often bad conditions so look for the british tractor for that (again no guarantee) but then go by 1 and 2
4) Very occasional fish as hub likes fish l look for sustainable stocks and how it was caught.
5) Look at the item to see it looks good and is what l want or does it appear to be "all air and no substance"
6) Eggs barn or free range

But at the end of the day it is a throw in the air luck about what l have bought. So long as l do the best l can within my pocket and concience l figure that is a damm sight more than many do.

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loopylou711 — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:02:11 GMT

The best doesnt always mean the most expensive, but surely you should and would want to know exactly where your meat is comming from and the way in which that animal is kept? I am not a perfect veggy by along way but i do try and buy the best veg i can when i can afford too which i understand is probably the same for meaties However, i do think there is a big difference between eating non organic vegetables than eating a chicken which lived in over crowding and never really got the chance to be like a real chicken! I would rather eat my veg 2bh!

I dont eat eggs or cheese to often but am not vegan so i dont a problem, being a vegan is a lil bit too hard!! I do cook for my bf and he knows my opinion on buying the best meats which we try to do but hes eating it not me.

anyways am not gona badger on!! :)

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:22:19 GMT

I would throw the questions back at those who said we (meaties) should only buy the most expensive meat and fish.
You should only be eating organic fruit and veg as other wise there is so much environmental damage done mass producing fruit and veg and those that eat cheese and eggs are you not eating only organically produced food.
Although regards organic (live) food there is controversy over health care and lack of it to avoid problems with organic status.

I can not afford expensive meat (said how l feel about fish although hub likes fish) l would have steak and roast beef every night but not a chance so those are very ocassional treats although nice steak in uk is almost impossible to get. It is not hung just killed and eaten.
We get a range of food but things like cheap burgers are a waste of time. Have to say lately has been a fair amount of pre prepared foods although that is unusual mostly it is all fresh with hub cooking it.

(edited cause l thought Lou. asked but on reread saw several had said similar)

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:10:51 GMT

Fish cakes are ok it is solid blocks of fish. Youngs do some pollock in batter (or breadcrumbs) they are not to bad again not strong. The minuite l get the strong taste forget it. That is why l am wary about having fish even from fish shops since cod has been harder to get.
Oh and fishbones garrr no l am not big on sardines cause of bones l have to bone them.

If l get a grape or a section of orange with a pip in thats it l can not eat that bit of fruit in the case of orange the entire amount left. Dont mind solid seed fruit ie peach or leechies something like that it is the "hidden" seeds l find make me feel ill.

By the way pears and salt n vinegar crisps are very nice
Another is a bowl of malt vinegar with salt and pepper in and dip your fruit (any fruit) into that, piece by piece. You can use sweet vinegars but l find malt is best.

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nelly Franquet — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:05:27 GMT

Totally agree with Angy

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:08:17 GMT

I'll convert to fish yet Caro - did a batch of 24 fishcakes the other night - half of them monk and half of them trout. Very delicate taste. The monk was landed the same day and the trout came from near louth an hour or so down the road. Both very fresh and not strrong at all. Morris thought they were delish!

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loopylou711 — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:57:34 GMT

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omg so it not just me who has an obssession with cheeessE!!

that the only thing i cnt give up :( i love it!

Vegan cheese was jst horrible :( it shouldnt b called cheese :(

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cheese rules, this i cannot give up,

Mmmm cheese butty, cheese toasty, chease on pasta, cheese pizza, crackers and cheese, not obsessed at all then

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i cant buy the stuff anymore, a block of cheese last me 3 days tops so so bad!! mmm cheesssy pasta so cheap and easy to make and tastes so great!

Looking at he other posts here, what i hate is when people question why i am vegetarian and mock it. When I first met my other half family thats what they asked bit of a mood killer to explain it . Quite simple I take the view that meet is murder not a onversation started by anymeans lol!

I do agree people have to look at where there meet is comming from and decide then if they can actually eat it. kill it cook it eat it was good at that and i think it put a few ppl of meat. The other thing people who are eating meat and fish should consider is there diet, I mean if you can't buy the best meat out there then why do you want to eat it? thats something that always confuses me. Personally having been on viva and peta and seen the way some animals are kept and treated just breaks my heart but thats me!

The other thing thats bug me is the sentence "I am a vegetarian but i eat fish/chicken" grrrr annoys the hell out of me lol

anyways rant over! :D

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:46:27 GMT

I am not a fish eater the taste is generally to strong for me. Not even overly keen on chip shop fish although in small amounts l can generally mange it but often am not able to due to the strong taste.

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:34:52 GMT

I agree with that Angiy - and as well as addressing welfare concerns and improving income for the farmer a diet with less meat is actually more healthy for us. It may however increase the amount of ie chicken imported from Asia if the consumer sticks with the cheap meat attitude - but with education and time maybe it would change?

One thing that really irks me is people who say 'I have no choice I have to buy cheap burgers/ chicken/ pies (strike out whichever non applicable) because I am on benefits /low income ' Wrong - it might mean you have to experiment with cheaper cuts and cook them a bit longer, or not eat so much meat or in most cases actually learn to cook and not be dependant on takeaways but it is possible to live very well on a low income. ( nothing wrong with offal, - admittedly I am not a fan of tripe or chitterlings, neck of lamb makes a fantastic stew, saddle of rabbit in an ale and mustard gravy is also very very nice, brisket done in the slow cooker absolutely melts in the mouth - will stop now I am feeling hungry )

Hardly anybody seems to eat fish anymore unless it comes from the chippy - the argument that some species are low in numbers is not an excuse - there are many types of fish we just need to be a bit more adventurous.- it doesnt always have to be haddock or cod, and a little bit of fish can go a long way. What about a bit of monk or hokie, have to admit I am not keen on pollock or salmon, trout is a good buy, kippers are good Forget fishfingers (I worked in a factory making them and would be very careful about which ones I will eat) get yourself a bag of say cod cheeks and make some fishcakes or a fish pie - I promise it will be a lot tastier than anything you get out of a packet and a lot cheaper.

- think I am turning into Jamie Oliver now

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Mac Feather — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:22:26 GMT

Yep as consumers the vast majority are totally divorced from the whole process. And basically we want what we want and we want it yesterday as cheap as poss. Cheap food but at what cost?

At one time most people would have had some relation involved in farming but not now- so its scarey how little some people know about whats on their plate n how it gets there.

I thought the tv series kill it cook it eat it was good.

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Angiy Michael — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:56:08 GMT

I think there are higher numbers of veggies and vegans in the vet profession than average which when you think about it is likely due to the nature of our work..it is bound to lead to people grappling with thoughts and issues about the meat chain at some point. I am very happy for people to pursue whatever course of dietary belief they decide upon although I have to say I prefer it when people have a least given whatever they choose some thought. ..what I mean is I can't stand meat eater who say they could never be veggie but get squeamish about eating things like rabbit for example or who could never face up to the processes involved in where meat comes from..it bugs me as I think people who think meat arrives in neatly cellophane should be made to face the meat chain and shoot, skin and eat something and then make their minds up ...if you can't kill and prepare it you should lose the right to eat it . What I would love to see is a move back to slower and more careful methods of farming..meat prices would go up so everyone would have to eat less but what they did eat would taste better, have better welfare standards and more money would go direct to farmers. It's never likely to happen on a large scale as as a race we are a greedy conveinence based bunch

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S-J — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:18:01 GMT

[quote user="loopylou711"]

omg so it not just me who has an obssession with cheeessE!!

that the only thing i cnt give up :( i love it!

Vegan cheese was jst horrible :( it shouldnt b called cheese :(

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cheese rules, this i cannot give up,

Mmmm cheese butty, cheese toasty, chease on pasta, cheese pizza, crackers and cheese, not obsessed at all then

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Kim Buckley — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:54:17 GMT

I was a veggy for 4 years but then came back to my senses

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loopylou711 — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:00:43 GMT

omg so it not just me who has an obssession with cheeessE!!

that the only thing i cnt give up :( i love it!

Vegan cheese was jst horrible :( it shouldnt b called cheese :(

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nelly Franquet — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:30:25 GMT

i admit becoming vegan is quite hard to me, i tried twice and just keep it 2 months ...

there is not so much things i miss : cheese ... cheese.....cheese..... LOL

so i'm veggie for now , fortunately soya and tofu aren't a problem to me

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loopylou711 — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:15:57 GMT

As a kid i knew being a veggy was what i wanted to be but my mum forced me to eat meet. But then at 17 i went veggy :D

its been 2 and half years now and cnt say i have looked back BEfore going veggy I was fairly fat and since goin veggy i have maintained a healthy weight and i do feel much healthier for doing it!

I eat quorn but it gets quite boring quite quickly! There range ahs got smaller, my local asda onlysell a thrid of things they used to :( However i do loveee making my own dishes! Caro tofu is just lyk egg really exceot much much healthier and tasty!! :D

trying to go vegan but its hard :( any other vegans got any advice? :D

veggys rock hehe!! :D

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:09:00 GMT

I love my meat but also like a lot of veggie dishes. What does surprise me is the number of people who say they are veggies and vegans and hate veg all they eat seems to be cheese and/or baked beans. I pretty much like most veg. Except not to keen on green beans and hate baked beans.

I would have liked to have tried tofu just to have tried it but going by my reactions on drinking soya milk that would not be a good idea. Soya dilute as it is in other food is fine but l was violently ill drinking soya milk both times at different times and as tofu is pure soya no experimenting for me.

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Royalsuper_fairy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:43:56 GMT

I know a few veggies in this industry. My partner thought I was a veggie due to the job I do and was very shocked when I pointed out that I wasn't.

I think a lot of people assume because we work with animals we would be all veggies!

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A Little TLC — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:42:41 GMT

I have been veggie for 15 years and never looked back.

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S-J — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:40:05 GMT

quorn is pretty good but i do prefer the vegie stuff like proper vegtable lasange (?) then meat free lasange. been a veggie for 13 years

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Mac Feather — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:25:36 GMT

Have tried Quorn and as a meat eater i thought it was pretty good, never tried tofu or that type of thing.

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Sal the 1st — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:58:03 GMT

quorn is still available - though they do seem to have reduced the range quite a bit - and yes I still eat it