Nutrition advice

Re: Nutrition advice

Nick Shackleton — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:17:28 GMT

dont mention tripe makes me wanna chuck! I always wear gloves when feed it at work

Re: Nutrition advice

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:13:30 GMT

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I am going to play devils advocate on this one.

How do you know for sure that the advice you are giving is the correct advice for the individual? Afterall I personally think there is a bit of brain washing on the nutrition front from food companies where nurses and vets are concerned.

I heard today from a friend who was telling me about a certin food that was for black dogs, and how this food keeps the coat black!!!!! I am sorry but I have never heard so much S***E , and this was a well known food company who dishes this info out.

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Hi ST....what about the breed specific diets? I'm sceptical about those as well!

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Exactly Mrs D, personally I think a lot of it is a load of Tripe!!! lol excuse my expression, and I am not going to be brainwashed by any food company.

Re: Nutrition advice

Nick Shackleton — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:09:35 GMT

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well just so I couldnt be accused of favouritism i did all the Hill's courses. The pedigree course, the iams course and I do recall at some time a cpd with purina.

Which food do I recommend? - the one that I feel will be of most benefit to the patient irrelevant of which company produces it - its as simple as that with me. All the fancy diets in the world wont make any difference if the patient refuses to eat it.

I consider myself to be old school - but thankfully things have moved on a bit since I started nursing, I dont miss having to go to the butchers to collect fresh pancreas and liver, rabbit etc - or having to prepare and cook the stuff.

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Always the best approach eh Sal?? Sometimes the patient won't eat the diet made by X so you go for the one made by Y!

Re: Nutrition advice

Sal the 1st — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:42:48 GMT

well just so I couldnt be accused of favouritism i did all the Hill's courses. The pedigree course, the iams course and I do recall at some time a cpd with purina.

Re: Nutrition advice

Mrs Dot Dot — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:30:46 GMT

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I am going to play devils advocate on this one.

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Hi ST....what about the breed specific diets? I'm sceptical about those as well!

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I know wot u mean Mrs DD maybe is jus us old school nurses lol

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Us old timers.......?! He!He!

Re: Nutrition advice

Nick Shackleton — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:22:25 GMT

[quote user="Mrs Dot Dot"]

[quote user="STRVN"]

I am going to play devils advocate on this one.

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Hi ST....what about the breed specific diets? I'm sceptical about those as well!

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I know wot u mean Mrs DD maybe is jus us old school nurses lol

Re: Nutrition advice

Mrs Dot Dot — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:59:46 GMT

[quote user="STRVN"]

I am going to play devils advocate on this one.

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Hi ST....what about the breed specific diets? I'm sceptical about those as well!

Re: Nutrition advice

Maisy — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:41:18 GMT

I do agree with you to an extent there Sandra, I think I know which company is all for the food for black dogs! Personally if I'm speaking to a client about their pet, and they feed them on a general complete food I don't deliberatly push the brand we stock. If the dog/cat is a picky eater, has digestive upsets, poor coat etc then I will give an opinion especially if the animal is on one of the not so good diets.

I'm not going to tell someone to buy xxxxx food just because we stock it, and probably costs double than what they already pay (money is an issue for everybody), but if they specifically ask for advice on the brand then I will go into detail as much as they need.

Re: Nutrition advice

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:32:58 GMT

I am going to play devils advocate on this one.

Re: Nutrition advice

Maisy — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:32:23 GMT

The nurses at most of the practices I've worked at tend to do the most nutrition advice (in general, not just relating to specific RCW/Hills etc diets). Have also found that clients tend to ask nurses about this over the vets but the vets don't seem to mind it either!

Re: Nutrition advice

Anonymous — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:26:54 GMT

Our vet is totally clued up when it comes to nutrition. So are the nurses that I work with. I'm trying to learn it all but there's a lot to learn. Hills this and Hills that! Arghhh - I'm sure it'll stick in my little brain soon

Re: Nutrition advice

S-J — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:58:25 GMT

our vets tend to ask our opinion or refer them to the nurses, not just for weight diets but for quite a few conditions, its great for your confidence, esp when one of the vets ring speccially to ask you.

Re: Nutrition advice

Saskia Quinn — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:08:08 GMT

From experience, I feel us nurses are a lot more confident when explaining nutrition and diets to clients. There is fantastic help out there for nurses needing/wanting it, e.g Hills & Royal Canin do great cpd aimed at nurses.

Where I work now, the vets leave it to the nurses to discuss nutrition advice, even diabetic & weight control diets and I think its great we are able to do so.

I also feel that it helps the vet greatly, if he/she can refer the client to a nurse to discuss diet and he/she can get on with the next consultation.

Clients often listen to the nurse, more than the vet and will be happier to ask questions to a nurse. I am confident when giving nutrition advice, I dont often recommend a particular brand, but when a client tells me what they feed their dog, if I think it is of poor nutritional quality, I tell them so.

Hope this helps Emma

Re: Nutrition advice

Mac Feather — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:22:04 GMT

One vet I know of a certain age would not advise clients to use prescription diets, was particularly weird over weight loss diets, would suggest cabbage and pasta etc. Then of course us V.Ns would have to deal with the questions of how much ruddy cabbage/pasta to feed and what could they do to stop the dog being so gassy!!!!!!!!

It made it very hard to get the cabbage feeders on to a prescription diet because the vet hadnt exactly been enthusiastic about them.