Very bad dog!

Re: Very bad dog!

wobbliebob — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:54:07 GMT

the only dog that has bit me was a cocker, it came keen as well to say it wasnt that bad a bite.

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Mrs Dot Dot — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:35:40 GMT

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It was also very unpleasant having to pm this dog afterwards and retrieve what was left of the drugs it had taken as police evidence. (- there were a number of dealers in the area that if they got raided had trained the dogs to eat the evidence, they usually had more than one dog and these dogs were always bloody nasty.) very sad life for the dog

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That's really sad..................

Re: Very bad dog!

Sal the 1st — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:30:58 GMT

I vividly remember 22 yrs ago having to stand on top of one of those industrial up and over rubbish bins having to fight off a very large ridgeback x mastiff (which was the 'in' breed of the drug dealers in my area at the time). The only thing I had left to fight with was the half of the broom handle that it hadnt already destroyed. It had been given domesedan ( horse sedative very large amount) and we had taken it down the yard because basically it was nearer the freezer. We had shut it in the euth room until the dom took effect - had gone in to do the deed - and this dog went ballistic!! and the 3 of us scattered. Very very unpleasant - I have never forgotten it! We waited until this dog wandered into one of the outdoor runs and then managed to shut it in and then darted it. I am in no doubt that if this dog had got hold of any of us it would have killed us.

Another practice same area was asked to help euth another ridgeback x mastiff. The owner said he was moving into a flat and had tried to rehome but wasnt able - he assured us it was a nice dog ( I had my doubts) didnt want to stay while we euthed it - was very upset (I think this probably was genuine) and to be honest we all felt for him. We gave the sedative with a muzzle on and then the owner took it off to kiss the dog goodbye! couldnt get near it afterwards to remuzzle. Very unpleasant euthanasia. The police contacted us later to ask if he had brought the dog in - it had bitten 5 people putting 2 of them in hospital.

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Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:30:07 GMT

Only dog I was ever bitten by was a cocker spaniel, it bit me, and took its time in letting go as it ragged my hand about, then bit the vet....it had cocker rage. My hand was 2 times the siize it should have been and i was on abios for 2 weeks, owner opted to have it pts because of what it had done.

This dog just went nuts.

my only other bite was a gsd......... but that was my fault, I was checking jaw tone after GDV op, and it chomped on my finger....ouch!

Re: Very bad dog!

Caro Laithwaite VN — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:26 GMT

Biggest problem with domitor not working was the police call middle of the night where the bloody police had tazered a full pitbul and got it into their van. I swear it took an elephant dose to fell it enough to get a muzzle on. Vets instructions were pts on site don't risk taking it back.

It ate 3 dog grabs as well.

Re: Very bad dog!

loobylou — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:11:48 GMT

The little toy dogs are the worst They are so spoilt, I call it 'little big dog' syndrome as they always punch above their weight and have a go at the huge rottie in the waiting room

I remember going on a house visit for a PTS on a hugely fat labrador which also was very nasty. We gave it domitor but it had noo effect whatsoever, ended up giving it about 4 or 5 huge doses before it was sleepy enough to get near. The owners were two tiny pensioners who couldnt get near the dog. We ended up being at the house about an hour and a half altogether.

Re: Very bad dog!

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:05:40 GMT

I have to say that any dog has the potential to be a bitter. Althou, I have to say that some breeds ahve a potential to nasty.....

My least fave has to be Mastiffs (landed in hosp for 2 days on a drip by one)! Japanese Akitas, Some rotties, American Cockers, G. Retrievers, little toy dogs with lap dog syndrome!

Re: Very bad dog!

Kim Buckley — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:01:02 GMT

The only dog I've been bitten by when it breaks the skin was by a boxer! It was totally unexpected and shook me up a bit because I was in the practice by myself on a Sat morning and it was an inpatient had shown no sign of aggression but decided that it was gonna go for my hand when I went to put a lead on it. Just shows that any dog can turn if it wants to!

Re: Very bad dog!

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:46:18 GMT

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we have found that golden retrievers along wwith rotties can be the worse, retrievers esp because u never quite expect it but when they get nasty they go physco.

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If you have an evil one of these they can be a right hand ful! We had one in a few yrs ago that completely ripped apart its owners hands need multiple stiching! The attack happened in our car park. At least it weren't one of us!

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S-J — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:36:01 GMT

we have found that golden retrievers along wwith rotties can be the worse, retrievers esp because u never quite expect it but when they get nasty they go physco.

Re: Very bad dog!

Caro Laithwaite VN — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:35:13 GMT

Usually the police won't send marksmen into the vet they claim that as it is there and not endangering the public the vets have to sort it. Know that cause delt with a similar case a few years ago only it thankfully wasn't running around.

Re: Very bad dog!

Kim Buckley — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:28:30 GMT

At my friends practice they had an aggressive rotti to pts. The owner had muzzled the dog and then left it with them. The dog somehow managed to slip it's lead and get it's muzzle off and was running around the practice and no-one could get anywhere near it. They ended up throwing it bits of meat with ACP tablets in but it had no effect whatsoever. In the end they had to get a police marksman in to shoot it! I just don't know why people let their dogs get that bad!

Re: Very bad dog!

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:22:00 GMT

My husband (a vet) had a problem with an aggressive dog that the owner had brought in for euthanasia. The owner refused to allow it to be muzzled, as it would upset the dog, and asked for an alternative method to be used. Ian told him to contact the police so that it could be shot by a marksman, at which point the owner changed his mind and allowed it to be muzzled.

Re: Very bad dog!

Steph Phillips — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:16:34 GMT

[quote user="Kimbo1985"]I think the vet was a bit annoyed by now and just turned around and said well a bullet in his head but that's not an option we've got! [/quote]

haha,, I'm liking what the vet said!! good on him!

we get a few aggressive dogs too.. we tend to dom/torb them I/M .. we ask the client if they want to stay.. if they do, then it's a waiting game.. if not, then like previously stated.. the lead trick lol. . it's sad really.. aggression can be cured depending on the type of course.. but most of the time it's the owners who need most of the training!!

Re: Very bad dog!

Cat Woman — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:55:24 GMT

[quote user="NickyVN"]bog digs[/quote]

Made me chuckle!

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Nicola Smith — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:16:01 GMT

If we are trying to \pts nasty dogs we often use the back leg vein in bog digs e rotties. GSDs as we are not 'in there face' and many don't mind a much and the owner can have total control of the front end

Re: Very bad dog!

Sal the 1st — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:27:15 GMT

cant beat good old xylozine in my book - lovely stuff for this sort of situation, a fraction of the cost of dom or rompun and very very effective. can go any route as long as its interdog - even squirt it in their gob if push comes to shove. And I am sorry but I dont have a lot of sympathy with owners, or friends of owners who think it is our job to get bitten

Re: Very bad dog!

Kim Buckley — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:27:11 GMT

I just hate dealing with aggressive dogs! Should have got rid of the owner and then we could have done the old lead through the door trick! lol

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:16:15 GMT

A vet l know used to swear by it. The night vet and l hate it we have yet to find a dose that dose the job without a litre of other drugs, dom, torb, entire contents of DD cupboard, 10lb hammer, free membership for a political party etc etc being pressed into use as back up to take the animal down.

Re: Very bad dog!

Nick Shackleton — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:00:35 GMT

Morphine based opiate analgesic

Re: Very bad dog!

Kim Buckley — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:53:01 GMT

I don't think the vet thought the dog was going to be as bad as it was. It had been seen by another vet so he'd not seen it before. What's paperveretum?

Re: Very bad dog!

Nick Shackleton — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:35:52 GMT

The combination of ACP/Paperveretum is what we routinely use as premedication for our aggressive patient. Produces good sedation and calms most patients without causing too much vasodilation, meaning you can still hit a vein (rather than domitor)

Re: Very bad dog!

Caro Laithwaite VN — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:32:10 GMT

ACP can make an agressive dog even worse, but glad that noone got hurt, pitty he could not do one more small bite and bite the gobby friend.

Re: Very bad dog!

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:31:17 GMT

The vet should have told her to leave, after all it was not her dog!

I have known a vet do that once to an arsey "friend" who was only making the situation worse.