Male Vet issue

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Wed, 05 May 2021 16:17:09 GMT

[quote userid="8705" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177092#177092"]But just to let all know the situation has been sorted Thanks :)[/quote]

Aah that's wonderful! Good to hear!! Thanks for letting us all know that. Aaaand breathe... :-))

RE: Male Vet issue

VetNurse Anon a/c — Wed, 05 May 2021 14:06:02 GMT

If you had read the post properly other Anon person I never reported this incident at all.

But I also feel that if I had wanted to I would be well within my rights to do so even if it was innocent which it was.

I wonder how it would of been received if I had walked around in my pants and bra.

Also it's not making a complaint its bringing it up to sort it out and not let it become a problem.

But just to let all know the situation has been sorted Thanks :)

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Tue, 04 May 2021 14:54:29 GMT

[quote userid="2637" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177071#177071"]

But as a gender more consideration is required.

End of the day, even in living quarters, you're at work, others are in the building, dress how you want to be caught unawares and they'll never be an incident!

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Exactly this - what we've been saying all along!!

Plus a bit of humour to make help make the point but without any outcry, as you said Ben Ogden - legend! But, if you can't do that, have a neat and quiet little word with your HN (as we said originally - just to garner some polite and respectful help, just in case. As we said originally!). You never know. as we said, originally... phew.

The topic of conversation did stretch outwards a bit, I'll admit, but that's what happens in debating. Healthy, I'd say. Words to wise and cautionary tales etc. No one really can know what the intention of the original 'chap' in those boxer shorts was. Only HE knows. The only thing we do know is the concern it caused the OP. Hence the post being written. I am therefore firmly of the opinion that THIS is sufficient cause to write that I am in full agreement with *everyone* on this Thread who is a proponent of being considerate to others (and to dress accordingly!!)

Peace, harmony and bumblebees.

I'm off for a cuppa....

RE: Male Vet issue

Sal the 1st — Tue, 04 May 2021 14:13:37 GMT

[quote userid="2637" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177072#177072"]Honestly, if I was this Vet, i'd probably feel a little embarrassment and[/quote]

this was exactly how my colleague at the hangars felt and he only mentioned it to the boss man because he was worried he might have upset me and it would spoil our working relationship. Once he knew that he hadn't we just had a laugh about it , we still do. I know he will never try and use the ladies loo again and in future I will lock the door (never bothered before because I'm the only female up there and usually have exclusive use)

RE: Male Vet issue

Ben Ogden — Tue, 04 May 2021 13:23:02 GMT

Ask the practice manager to buy a dressing gown you can gift him. Gift it to him (not in front of the whole team) with a knowing smile and a short verbal on how he might appreciate something quick to throw on to protect his modesty.... (and your eyes)

Honestly, if I was this Vet, i'd probably feel a little embarrassment and this would let me know you saw, it was awkward, but heres this to communicate it doesn't happen again!

RE: Male Vet issue

Ben Ogden — Tue, 04 May 2021 13:17:14 GMT

Confession - I've been the wandering in my boxers person. I was a hell of lot lot younger and I honestly thought I was the ONLY person in the entire building, quick check of the alarm before bed and I was caught... The embarrassment of shocking a female vet who randomly appeared was enough to teach me to put some damm clothes on!

For another male perspective, not saying it's correct, but we don't think anything of 'nipping' somewhere in boxers for a wee.... But as a gender more consideration is required.

End of the day, even in living quarters, you're at work, others are in the building, dress how you want to be caught unawares and they'll never be an incident!

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Tue, 04 May 2021 09:41:48 GMT

It's an expression apache like many it uses body parts... I used this one with a particular wryness (and on purpose) in the circumstances.

RE: Male Vet issue

apache — Tue, 04 May 2021 09:39:34 GMT

[quote userid="6058" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177066#177066"]If you want to enter a debate with cojones[/quote]

Are you suggesting anon is a man? Imagine if it was the very vet in question......

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Tue, 04 May 2021 02:54:03 GMT

I agree with you Rachel Woodcock! If you want to enter a debate with cojones...stand up and be counted!

RE: Male Vet issue

Rachel Woodcock — Mon, 03 May 2021 20:13:54 GMT

Interesting that you posted your response anonymously

RE: Male Vet issue

VetNurse Anon a/c — Mon, 03 May 2021 20:12:08 GMT

I think you are massively over reacting. It was clearly an accident, why not just let it go as an embarrassing situation for the both of you, not bring it up and move on. What’s the need for all this making complaints and reporting business?! Seems unnecessary for something that sounds like a total accident especially if the vet didn’t know you were in there.

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:11:39 GMT

Fair enough to handle these events with humour if you're able to. Tends to be us older lot that can swing a punchline out...tho not always of course!!

Just I'm very conscious of those people (of any gender) or less brusque disposition who can't do so. Or, perhaps are offended by it due to Faith, for example. They are put into these positions of feeling confused by such 'oops' moments when a simple second of unselfish consideration by this trouserless chappie would have completely avoided the whole thing.

I know I'm banging the same drum here. I know I'm repeating myself. However I feel it's an important enough lesson to hear and not made too light of.

RE: Male Vet issue

Sal the 1st — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 18:36:47 GMT

[quote userid="2368" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177015#177015"]or I would have made a funny comment. [/quote]

that is exactly how we handled it - after we had done the embarrassed bit

RE: Male Vet issue

Selena Carnell — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 18:22:50 GMT

Must admit the thought of seeing one of my work colleagues in just his boxers, makes me want to bleach my eye balls.

But apart from feeling slightly awkward I wouldn't have bothered mentioning it, unless it happened again, or I would have made a funny comment.

Maybe he honestly thought you were down stairs.

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 13:30:04 GMT

[quote userid="4678" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177013#177013"]'m not saying that the incident with the OP was anything but innocent but I just wish people would be more respectful of other people and how their actions can make someone else feel![/quote]

And this is exactly the whole point. Thanks Rachel Woodcock

Arlo Guthrie

apache

You two can party together in your underwear unabashed... (sorry - couldn't resist a little dig at you both!!)

RE: Male Vet issue

Rachel Woodcock — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 09:53:19 GMT

Having worked nights and slept in a 2 bed flat above the practice I wouldn't have dreamt of leaving my room in my underwear,ever! I think that not only would I not want a work colleague to see me like that but also that I wouldn't want to put them in a potentially awkward situation!

I wholeheartedly agree that it should be reported to the HN and then if it was an 'accident' then nothing more will come of it but if not then at least it's been recorded somewhere.

I had a lot of trouble with a customer when I worked in a Co-op supermarket preveterinary career and I still remember how it made me felt whenever he came into the shop and how uncomfortable I felt. My amazing mum sorted it for me as she had a word with the guy and he never came near me again. The problem is that sometimes men don't realise how their actions are impacting on someone else and what they think is innocent can actually be making someone feel very uncomfortable.

I'm not saying that the incident with the OP was anything but innocent but I just wish people would be more respectful of other people and how their actions can make someone else feel!

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 08:49:43 GMT

[quote userid="2100" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177011#177011"]I just wouldn't read anything untoward into it (unless it happened more than once). [/quote]

That's precisely what we were getting at Arlo Guthrie in our earlier answers to the OP... just quietly talk to her HN about it. May well have been an embarrassing 'oops' moment for both parties (probably was). BUT, just in case it wasn't. Best reported at first incidence as it caused her concern enough to write to us about it here and ask for advice, yes?

Love, peace, harmony and bumblebees (now, where's that darned soap?)

RE: Male Vet issue

Arlo Guthrie — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 07:49:20 GMT

[quote userid="6058" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177010#177010"]Clearly *you're* not worried about the possible effect YOU have on other people, whereas I am.[/quote]

I wouldn't say that I am not worried about the effect I have on others. I just don't think there's anything offensive about being in what are, after all, a pair of shorts. That said, trying to put myself in the shoes of a presumably young woman, I can understand that you don't particularly want to see the boss running around in their underwear! I just wouldn't read anything untoward into it (unless it happened more than once).

[quote userid="6058" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/177010#177010"]OMG...somebody pass me the sunlight soap.... aaaaaaaaannnnnrrrggghhhhhhh[/quote]

hahaha!

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 19:47:34 GMT

Arlo Guthrie don't ever need to see my male work colleagues in their skiddies, mate. There are flaps involved. Nope. Nope. Nope. Put. Your. Flipping. Trousers. On.

I would always cover up and would never ever consider trotting around a communal area in just my frillies (even now and especially not when I was in my Salad Days!), Not even if busting for a piddle. Tis the difference, I guess, between the genders this, again, where as a woman I feel it necessary to be more covered up to prevent embarrassing misconstrues or accidental meetings. Clearly *you're* not worried about the possible effect YOU have on other people, whereas I am. Besides, how do you know the old "chipolata" wouldn't suddenly make an appearance? OMG...somebody pass me the sunlight soap.... aaaaaaaaannnnnrrrggghhhhhhh

Nope. Let's just Agree to Disagree on this one. I ain't shifting my opinion.

RE: Male Vet issue

Arlo Guthrie — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:37:30 GMT

[quote userid="6058" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/176999#176999"]

apache said:
I'm not sure if there is a need to say anything to anyone.

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Sorry Alison Clare Hickman I disagree! If I happened to be sharing accommodation, and happened to think 'damn I am busting for a pee' and I didn't hear anyone about, I wouldn't think anything of popping to the loo in my boxers. They're shorts. No different to other shorts, provided the chipolata is isn't actually hanging out. I do agree that if it were to happen more than once, and it made the OP uncomfortable, then sure, raise it.

RE: Male Vet issue

VetNurse Anon a/c — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 08:34:42 GMT

It is possible yes It was my last night on shift and a Sunday so nobody was in that day.

He seems nice I'm sure it was just an awkward thing but will be fine.

I'll see how it goes next week Thank you for all the replies :)

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:45:51 GMT

Absolutely my point Sal the 1st !! Reported and all cleared up.

RE: Male Vet issue

Sal the 1st — Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:15:30 GMT

perhaps the vet has already mentioned it to somebody? Accidents happen. I was caught unawares in my scanties while I was getting changed once - the pilot involved was just as embarrassed as I was. I got called into the office the next day because he had gone to the boss man mortified that it had happened but didn't want it to affect us working together - and it hasn't

RE: Male Vet issue

Alison Clare Hickman — Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:06:10 GMT

[quote userid="10972" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue/176998#176998"]I'm not sure if there is a need to say anything to anyone.[/quote]

Sorry apache I completely and utterly disagree with you. If you are staying in a flat where genders are mixed you travel outside your room decently covered to prevent any likelihood of confusions arising. It's that simple. Trousers is all it took. Or a towel. Or a blanket. There is very definitely a need to say something just in case there is more to it and even if there isn't anything more, to remind said kind gentleman to cover himself up next time, bless him. I am sad to say it - but the days when we could rely on innocent mistakes being innocent mistakes and not recording them as such are long gone.

RE: Male Vet issue

apache — Tue, 20 Apr 2021 09:56:23 GMT

[quote userid="8705" url="~/001/nonclinical/f/problem-pages/32171/male-vet-issue"]sometimes the vet might stay if they get called in or if they are tired.[/quote]

Especially if this was an unplanned stay his clothing options may have been - fully dressed or just boxers. I know in similar situation that is how I've slept. In reality it may be a little embarrassing for both parties (the OP said he fumbled and thought his quick trip for a wee was ok). I don't think any wrongdoing occurred and I'm not sure if there is a need to say anything to anyone. If staying in the same flat these things will happen IMO.

Fully naked - not ok. Just let the guy briefly walk past, have his wee and go back to sleep!