Do you need a RVN in a practice

RE: Do you need a RVN in a practice

VetNurse Anon a/c — Wed, 09 Oct 2019 11:14:57 GMT

Maybe it would be a good thing and make vets realise that nurses aren't just there to clean up after them!

RE: Do you need a RVN in a practice

Lorena Williamson — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:05:01 GMT

I do completely agree in respect of having a qualification doesn't equal automatic higher standards, but having said qualification and being Registered does mean you can be held accountable for maintaining those standards - instead of it just being on the Vets head.

Yes, they may be morally and ethically bound to provide a high standard- but bottom line, legally? Apart from their employment contract, not much else is there.

And again, yes a Vet can be a great CC, but as mentioned above, different set of responsibilities may mean a different view on what is needed for the role that's all :)

RE: Do you need a RVN in a practice

VetNurse Anon a/c — Sat, 05 Oct 2019 20:48:49 GMT

I'm a different anon poster to the one above - I have to say that sometimes just because you're an RVN doesn't mean you do a better job than an unqualified member of staff! I've known some truly shocking RVNs who bring animals off the table with a post-op temp of 35 and then just plonk the patient in a kennel with no warming aids!

I don't see why a vet can't be a great CC

RE: Do you need a RVN in a practice

James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN — Sat, 05 Oct 2019 01:56:20 GMT

No, there is no obligation

RE: Do you need a RVN in a practice

VetNurse Anon a/c — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 16:06:47 GMT

In my opinion, YES!!!

IT SETS THE STANDARDS FOR THE PRACTICE!

I KNOW ALOT OF WHAT A NURSE DOES CAN BE LEARNT HANDS ON IN PRACTICE BY LAY STAFF! BUT NURSES LEARN THE WHYS AND HOWS BEHIND THE PRACTICE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AND GOLD STANDARD PATIENT CARE AT COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY.

I AM A LOCUM AND BEEN TO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRACTICES AND QUICKLY FOUND THAT THOSE THAT DIDNT HAVE QUALIFIED REGISTERED NURSES TO HELP SET THE STANDARDS HAD POOR STANDARDS THEN THOSE THAT HAD QUALIFIED NURSES EVEN IN TERMS OF ASEPSIS! THE THEATRE WOULD BE FILTHY WITH BLOOD SPOTS ON WALLS AND TABLE AND LAYERS OF DUST ON THEATRE LIGHT- WOULDNT WANT MY PETS GOING TO THOSE TYPES OF PRACTICES.

WHERE AS THE ONES WITH QUALIFIED NURSES HAD BETTER STANDARDS.

PLUS I FEEL AN UNQUALIFIED MONITORING ANAESTHESIA EVEN THOUGH TECHNICALLY THE VET REMAINS RESPONSIBLE IS POOR STANDARDS. AGAIN IN THOSE PRACTICES WITH NO QUALIFIEDS I HAVE SEEN SHOCKING GA MONITORING EVEN JUST IN TERMS OF NO HEAT AIDS DURING A GA AND STERILITY ISSUES RESULTING IN POOR RECOVERY AND POST SX COMPLICATIONS, ALSO PATIENTS WAKING UP DURING SX OR TOO DEEP AND SO ON. NEEDLESS TO SAY I DONT GO BACK TO THEM PRACTICES. I HAVE BEEN TO A FEW THAT WAS PRIVATE AND RELIED ON LAY STAFF TO DO NURSE JOBS AS DIDNT WANT OR SEE THE NEED FOR A REGISTERED NURSE AND THEN GOT TOOK OVER BY A CORPORATE WHO CHANGED THAT, WHICH IS WHERE I CAME IN AS A LOCUM WHILE THEY RECRUITED A RVN.

ALSO I FEEL AND A LOT OF VETS HAVE SAID THE SAME THAT A NURSE IS BEST PLACED TO MENTOR AND CLINICAL COACH A STUDENT NURSE! WE DO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT JOB WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF RESPONSIBILITIES.....

...BUT JUST MY OPINION BASED ON MY EXPERIENCES AND WHAT I HAVE OBSERVED FROM NONE STAFFED AND STAFFED RVN PRACTICES. PLUS NO ONE CAN BE CLASSED AS A NURSE IN PRACTICE NOW UNLESS REGISTERED WITH THE RCVS...