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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Employers National Insurance</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/nonclinical-discussions/31431/employers-national-insurance</link><description> Hi there, 
 I was wondering if anyone could explain to me the Employer&amp;#39;s National Insurance fees that Umbrella companies charge ? It seems to me that I&amp;#39;m having to pay National Insurance twice over, mine and the Umbrella companies ! 
 Super confused</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Employers National Insurance</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/173740?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2018 13:50:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:9d0b4d83-141e-49a2-bd3a-c7311d919192</guid><dc:creator>r-more</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;You&amp;rsquo;re welcome, Merry Christmas!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Employers National Insurance</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/173737?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:02:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:63be9408-7130-40b5-8313-31a120922ba5</guid><dc:creator>Emma Daw</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank-you so much for your help ! That&amp;#39;s made it all so much clearer. Have a very happy Christmas !&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Employers National Insurance</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/173732?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:18:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:b3f750ef-ac07-4a60-ae69-3f309bd88aa0</guid><dc:creator>r-more</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From a tax and National Insurance perspective, you are &amp;ldquo;employed&amp;rdquo; by the umbrella company. Whoever a persons employer is, the employer has to pay emploer&amp;rsquo;s National Insurance in proportion to the wages they pay their employees - so basically there&amp;rsquo;s your tax (PAYE), your National Insurance and employers National Insurance.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a typical employment situation, you would get your pay (less deductions) and the employer would pay employer&amp;rsquo;s National Insurance in addition to your pay. With an umbrella company, the only source that could be used to pay the employer&amp;rsquo;s NI is the fee income you generate, hence the deduction. If an umbrella company were to pay the employer&amp;rsquo;s NI out of their own pocket, they wouldn&amp;rsquo;t make any money and there would be no point in offering the service - the alternative would be to increase their fees to cover the contribution, but you would still end up paying it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Setting yourself up as a limited company may be a more financially favourable option, but that&amp;rsquo;s a &amp;rdquo;may&amp;rdquo; and you need to also factor in issues of company administration And would only work if you are genuinely self employed and not just self employed on paper.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>