Leishmania

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 07 May 2019 08:42:15 GMT

Apparently because I have this on my facebook page I am anti European? Aw come on already - this has nothing what so ever to do with Brexit

https://www.rvc.ac.uk/news-and-events/rvc-news/rvc-diagnoses-first-case-of-leishmaniosis-transmission-between-dogs-in-the-uk

and from a member of the veterinary community too

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Sal the 1st — Sun, 24 Jun 2018 06:37:07 GMT

of the cases that people have seen how many of them had skin lesions and how many had no visible skin problems?

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V E S — Sat, 23 Jun 2018 20:58:34 GMT

Only seen 1 or 2 that I can think of over the past 2 years... saw Ehrlichia much more! Would definitely say theres an increase in these diseases in recent years. Most I've seen are UK dogs that have travelled in Europe, rather than rescues from Europe? Though I have seen one european rescue testing all their dogs for these diseases before sending them over.

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James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN — Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:08:26 GMT

Neither do I - I'm on the fence about it. The ones I have seen have been lovely, not difficult / fearful at all. Yes I agree that the money could be better spent on improving the conditions in the rescue centres abroad.

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Sal the 1st — Sat, 23 Jun 2018 12:26:32 GMT

[quote user="James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN"]

A dog is a dog - what does it matter where it comes from? Also I would bet that the dogs waiting to be rescued in countries such as Romania are in far greater need and being kept in far worse conditions than thosein the rescue centres over here. Another point - the criteria for rescuing a dog over here has become almost absurd - unless you're a retired couple with a garden of several acres surrounded by an 8 foot high fence, most of them don't want to know.

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I didn't start this thread for this reason - but as you mention it, with few exceptions, every foreign rescue dog we have seen - and we see a lot - have had problems and I am not singling out Romanian dogs either - Greece, Bulgaria, Spain, Romania and anywhere else you may choose to stick a pin in the map. In many cases these dogs are terrified just not handle-able , they are street dogs used to fighting to survive, not pets as people in this country understand them to be. And when they do bite the hand that feeds or don't settle with existing pets then they find themselves being passed on to the next unsuspecting owner or euthanased. It isn't fair on the dogs and it isn't fair on some of the new owners who really don't know what they are letting themselves in for in many cases.

Spend the money being spent shipping them over to improve the conditions where they are by neutering and improving the shelters instead of feeding the latest craze of ' My dog is a rescue dog from x country and that makes me so much better than everybody else'

[quote user="James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN"]

A dog is a dog - what does it matter where it comes from?

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It doesn't really - so long as you accept that somewhere along the line a dog or dogs are going to die because there is no room left

[quote user="James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN"] Another point - the criteria for rescuing a dog over here has become almost absurd - unless you're a retired couple with a garden of several acres surrounded by an 8 foot high fence, most of them don't want to know.

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This point I will agree with you on - but then pet rescuing has become such big business over here along with doggy day care and all the other associated businesses that have sprung up.

But getting back to the original point of my post - all I really wanted to know was the approx number of cases of leish in this country and if there are areas with more cases than others. I really don't want to get into any arguments over who is right and who is wrong over this. I have friends who have foreign rescue dogs. We don't agree but I respect their opinion.

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James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:50:10 GMT

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Sal the 1st — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 19:35:30 GMT

[quote user="Tania Ford"]

Only seen 1 case and it is a 'rescue' dog from Romania. My concern is that there is a possibility that bringing these dogs to the UK could impact on our own dogs as it has the potential to be zoonotic. We also already have so many healthy dogs in rescue centres that need forever homes here, so why go to all of the time and expense to bring sick dogs here? :(

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I am of the same opinion - I get so het up about it that I don't even discuss it anymore, but putting that aside I just wondered if there were certain parts of the country where there are more leish positive cases as it seems to be on the increase

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Lydia Smith — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 17:27:37 GMT

Hi,

We work very closely we a greek rescue who all come over with leish...

We have around 20-30 on file.

Hope this helps ...

Lydia

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Tania Ford — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:47:20 GMT

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Sal the 1st — Fri, 22 Jun 2018 08:46:58 GMT

thanks. we have 3 so far this year with one other that is a strong suspect - still to be tested. All Foreign rescue.

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James Colver Cert. Ed, RVN — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 22:48:10 GMT

2 - 3 over the past couple of years - West Sussex, foreign rescue dogs

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Sal the 1st — Thu, 21 Jun 2018 08:05:09 GMT

Thanks for your reply - with one exception ours are from foreign dogs being 'rescued'. I just wondered how many dogs have leish in this country now and if there are any regions that have more cases than others?

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Steph Worsley — Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:39:09 GMT

I've seen a few when I was in referral, one was a dog that had never travelled but it turned out that her mum had so we deduced that it had been passed from her