low body temp

Re: low body temp

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:50:08 GMT

[quote user="Bouncyfi"]

I'll be watching the next few editions - if anyone uses my idea for monatory gain, I'll know!!!

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I told a few peeps at work and they were impressed

Re: low body temp

Fiona Leathers — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:44:45 GMT

I'll be watching the next few editions - if anyone uses my idea for monatory gain, I'll know!!!

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:53:42 GMT

[quote user="Bouncyfi"]

I always read the top tips and think I've been doing that for years!!! Maybe I should write in with my coloured fluids!

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I have a few up my sleeves but never get chance to write them down and send them in lol

Re: low body temp

Fiona Leathers — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:49:31 GMT

I always read the top tips and think I've been doing that for years!!! Maybe I should write in with my coloured fluids!

Re: low body temp

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:31:59 GMT

[quote user="Nick Shackleton"]

I wouldnt win cos these tips are actually practical

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lololololol

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:27:56 GMT

I wouldnt win cos these tips are actually practical

Re: low body temp

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:12:00 GMT

Loving the top tips Nick and Fi, get it in the VN times

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:38:09 GMT

[quote user="Bouncyfi"]

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Also an idea instead of using dispossable gloves as hor hands. Get 500ml bag of fluids that have expired or sneak one out of the box.

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I put food colouring in my expired bags, which I'm using as heat source, that way everyone knows not to use them for fluids. I did write all over them once in permanent markers, which promptly came off all over the patient and then became permanent!!

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Top tips by Fi

Re: low body temp

Fiona Leathers — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:52:33 GMT

[quote user="Nick Shackleton"]

Also an idea instead of using dispossable gloves as hor hands. Get 500ml bag of fluids that have expired or sneak one out of the box.

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Re: low body temp

Emma Purnell — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:03:28 GMT

We now use a lot of bubblewrap during ops, be it body wraps, legs, even ears in some cases! Seems to work, but obviously it needs to be disposed of after use and they aren't too thrilled trying to recover with it on...

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:09:57 GMT

Also an idea instead of using dispossable gloves as hor hands. Get 500ml bag of fluids that have expired or sneak one out of the box. This can now be warmed up i nthe microwave and either use as a hot hand or wrapping drip line around it. Once it has cooled it can be kept and rewarmed for use with other patients etc..... Plus less likely to be punctured or split unlike gloves

Re: low body temp

MrsP — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:03:53 GMT

Thanks for that! (although £6 per thermovent is faaar to expensive!!)

Will recommend all that has been proposed and see what I get back... Nurses and vets are on board so we'll see. Many thanks for this thread!!!!

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:59:36 GMT

I know its easy for me to say being in referral where money can be spent, althou we still have a budget!

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9273800&fh_view_size=10&fh_sort_order=1&fh_sort_by=_price_rrp_min&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=draught&fh_eds=%c3%9f&fh_refview=search&ts=1244674795375&isSearch=true

£6 per door not too expensive!

Re: low body temp

MrsP — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:57:10 GMT

BTW, love the AAS website. We do have a fluid warmer (which seems to have made a big difference) and all GA's have IVFT. So that's good, eh?

Re: low body temp

MrsP — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:53:15 GMT

Err... Kennel room?? No such luck with 'luxuries' such as heaters and draught excluders...

I know we do the best with the facilities we have in a small 1st opinion practice, but it just seems a shame that such a fundamental thing seems to fall by the wayside...

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:50:04 GMT

Yeah its the small ones that are at risk due to the surface area to volume ratio! Do you have a set recover area?? can you get heaters installed etc??? Draught excluders at doors

Re: low body temp

MrsP — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:44:39 GMT

Mmm... Had a debate about Thermovents today too. Boss not willing to include price in anaesthetics so we can only use them when vets remember to quote for them in the procedure. Our post op temps have seriously increased in the last year or so, but it's still a major cause for concern when you see a JRT bitch recovering from a routine spay and shivering like no-ones business.

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:27:11 GMT

ensuring that premeded patients are out of draughts and as soon as possible following induction other forms of heat loss control are used. Heat sources, HME (heat Moisture Exchangers). Bandaging of limbs. We use body wraps too. Using Soffban and Surgifix.

Re: low body temp

MrsP — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:22:06 GMT

Was talking about this thread to nurses and vets at work today and wondering about the 'wandering off heat pad' issue vs practicalities/monitoring/safety etc. Definitely something to think about. At the CPD i went to a few weeks ago, they mentioned hypothermia being a result of ACP pre-med, so we've been trying to think of ways to improve things. 1 vet had the idea of thermal vests today...

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:15:55 GMT

Advanced Anaesthesia Specialists

http://www.aasmedical.co.uk/?s=international

Re: low body temp

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:54:27 GMT

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AAS do a deal if you buy so many of the blankets per 1/4 you get a free heater. It's worth looking into. Blankets are around £15 quid each so just add it onto the price of a GA!

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More info please Nick......... AAS??

Re: low body temp

Emma Purnell — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:58:35 GMT

Ooooh.... will delve deeper into that, thanks!

Re: low body temp

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:54:02 GMT

AAS do a deal if you buy so many of the blankets per 1/4 you get a free heater. It's worth looking into. Blankets are around £15 quid each so just add it onto the price of a GA!

Re: low body temp

Emma Purnell — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:35:01 GMT

I have been forcing everyone to pre-heat the animals prior to any premed or procedure today - all seems to have been really positive and we have lots of happy animals - and people!

Thanks for the tip!

We have only got local heat sources unfortunately - can't persuade the bosses to get me an air heater!

Re: low body temp

Sandra Taylor RVN, MBVNA — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:15:15 GMT

You have to watch what heat sources you use as well for cardiac patients, if you increase the temp on the skin surface using heat, you can potentially be taking vital circulation away from an already ailing organ.