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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/utility/feedstylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Umbrella company</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/nonclinical-discussions/29838/umbrella-company</link><description>I&amp;#39;m looking into umbrella companies for veterinary nursing self employment - I&amp;#39;ve been self employed before however had an accountant. I&amp;#39;d prefer to use an umbrella company as it&amp;#39;s easier to set up and more veterinary practices prefer this method. If</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 10</generator><item><title>RE: Umbrella company</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/166448?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:17:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:5b409343-dace-4eba-bb61-37d393d4bc6a</guid><dc:creator>Sal the 1st</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;in that case practice payroll might be your best bet?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Umbrella company</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/166445?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:09:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:33620df4-b54b-44cf-a323-f50cc7e9e9b7</guid><dc:creator>Gemma Clinch</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi thankyou for the information!

I have been self employed in the past however took a year out travelling. On my return I am actively seeking other jobs not within the veterinary world but want to locum to tide me over, so it really isn&amp;#39;t permanent hence why I don&amp;#39;t want to register as self employed and get an accountant again as hopefully I won&amp;#39;t be doing this for too long.

So I&amp;#39;m in a bit of a dilemma as to what my best option is for short term locuming?!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Umbrella company</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/166442?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:39:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:bdfe611a-957e-4d0b-afda-35ae0a64c8e2</guid><dc:creator>Sal the 1st</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;That was the way I did it Kirsty - honestly folks it isn&amp;#39;t difficult to sort out your own tax and NI - if I could do it I am sure most of you could. The other way to do this is go on the practice payroll and most practices will do this for you if you ask - that way your tax/NI is deducted at source.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Umbrella company</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/166439?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:50:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:316ee4a7-65c9-4e18-b10f-b72304e74758</guid><dc:creator>Kirsty RVN</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Gemma&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Avoid umbrella companies!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have just finished 8 months of locum work and the thing that agencies or umbrella companies don&amp;#39;t tell you is that as well as employee tax and national insurance and the umbrella overhead fee you are also paying employer tax for the company saving them millions a year which is why they don&amp;#39;t tell you. Unfortunately they are exploiting a rather gray area.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have looked into it and as an employee of the umbrella company you should not be paying employertax/NI but once it is paid it is difficult to get it back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I worked 7 on 7 off at &amp;pound;15 and paid a fortnight at a gross rate of &amp;pound;1260. I was actually paid &amp;pound;600 which works out at &amp;pound;8 per hour. The same rate as a permanent nurse but without employer benefits. If I was working the same rate and hours as a permanent nurse after tax I would have been paid &amp;pound;1060 a fortnight so that is a massive deduction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also due to a change in legislation you are no longer aloud to claim expenses to offset your tax and if a umbrella company does than you will be liable for a tax bil.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have just come out of locum work as I learnt the hard way so unless you want to pay two lots of tax and NI as well as company fee I would avoid them as it is not worth it. You will take home 50% of your earnings if lucky.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For long term locum work I would do it self employed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kirstie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Umbrella company</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/166334?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:09:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:6b02c190-409c-4c11-a29a-b79318bce76d</guid><dc:creator>Gemma Clinch</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Thankyou!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Umbrella company</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/166327?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:24:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:448ec193-cad8-4120-8a09-b3528ecb3c81</guid><dc:creator>Rachel Woodcock</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Avoid macpro! Very slow and constantly had to chase up invoices!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;liquid fri is great in my experience - I was the first RVN that had used them but I really can&amp;#39;t fault their service!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Umbrella company</title><link>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/166324?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:24:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:03d76298-6ef6-439c-9ed4-178fa17e15cc</guid><dc:creator>Sal the 1st</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;if you put umbrella companies in the search bar on here there are 106 results - from very recent to historic - this has to be one of the most asked questions - loads of info, it might give you an idea which ones to avoid too&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>