Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

Abby Stuchbury — Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:24:58 GMT

My first year i funded myself and paid minimum wage and also didn't get paid the day i was at college, i then got a better contract with them and my second and 3rd years have been paid for and my day at college paid, still on minimum wage which is better then the apprentice wage which i technically am.

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

Nessa Harbottle — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 22:56:06 GMT

Thank you everyone for your replies, I will ask my friend to contact the college and find out where she stands

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

Mark Hedberg — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:07:05 GMT

Hi jplayer!

The apprenticeship in veterinary nursing is an apprenticeship; but the theoretical learning of the course (the classroom bit) is identical whether or not you are a paid apprentice or a full time student. So you might be in a 'mixed' class of apprentices and non-apprentices; the main difference is the apprentices most often are taking extra qualifications for maths and english support, and the diploma students are just doing the main nursing course.

Check with your training provider/college to find out what your current status is - it always helps to clarify the situation before necessarily going for legal advice.

Best wishes,
Mark

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

Jack Player — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 23:01:21 GMT

It is set out like an apprenticeship but I dont think its classed as one. Being paid for that day will depend on tr contract, if it's classed as day release they wont Pay you but, some will class it as a full day's work.

Best bet is join the BVNA (£27 for student) and they offer free legal advic so can find out properly where you stand.

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

HDela — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 16:03:48 GMT

I'm on a level 3 diploma course as an apprentice and there is a mix of people in the class who get paid for college days and those who don't. I think it all comes down to what you agree with your employer.

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Tayler Smith — Fri, 05 Jun 2015 08:51:04 GMT

I am doing the diploma as an apprenticeship and am on the apprenticeship wage which is a lot lower than minimum wage. I also do not get paid for the day i am at college, i didn't think they had to pay me when i was not working?

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

Mark Hedberg — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 09:52:02 GMT

Hi, the Diploma can form *part* of an apprenticeship but is not by itself an apprenticeship. Check with your course provider, they may be able to help clarify your situation.

Cheers,
Mark

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

Sal the 1st — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 08:30:24 GMT

yes it can make a big difference if she isn't an apprentice she doesn't have the rights or conditions of an apprentice - which may be good or not so good, depending on her age a minimum wage for an apprentice may be a lot lower than what she is on now?. Your friend needs to check her contract as it will tell her more. When I did my first year training we did it as a day release and were not paid by the practice for our day at college (and this was quite common then) - we were given the option of working extra weekends or hours in the week on the days that we were in the practice to make up our wages, and yes we paid for our course as well. It can vary greatly from practice to practice - some will pay for the day at college and some won't some will pay for the course and some won't.

http://www.taxguideforstudents.org.uk/volunteering-training/how-are-apprentices-taxed/what-is-the-national-minimum-wage-for-an-apprentice

https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

Nessa Harbottle — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 08:07:24 GMT

No, she will still be on minimum wage as a student. Does that make a difference?

RE: Veterinary Nursing Diploma now an apprenticeship

Sal the 1st — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 07:52:27 GMT

is she officially an apprentice?

https://www.gov.uk/apprenticeships-guide