Wage of a deputy head nurse

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

FINNIGAN — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 15:08:27 GMT

Well. I'm in a small practice, Hampshire area 2 vet, I'm head nurse and earn over 24,000 our newly qualifieds are on 16-18,000!!!!

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Selena Carnell — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:05:07 GMT

i didn't put anywhere in my post tthat that 27k was an unrealistic wage, but it has be be put in to context of location, size of practice, and expectations.

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

nikki.mits — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 18:54:27 GMT

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im a head nurse on about 18K in a small practice. senior nurse is on about 17.5k

[/quote]are you serious??? Where do you work??! That is outrageous. I was a head nurse previously and i was earning about 27K.

[/quote] /you don't say where in the uk you got 27K ... i can imagine that wage being in a large practice, or referral based position. Certainly not in a small 2 vet practice. The new graduate vet that started there was only just on 27K. Im starting to see a lot of applications with very unrealistic views of what pay they 'should' be recieveing.

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Ok to be fair I was in a practice just outside of London. However I still feel that nurses should be earning a wage that reflects our skills and im afraid I dont believe that wage does. Also the fact that you believe that nurses asking for higher wages is 'unrealistic' is what will keep the salaries so low. I dont know what stuff costs where you live but London is expensive and there are practices offering a salary of 18k to nurses in london. Which i maintain is outrageous. If my salary is not enough for me to live on (which 18k in or near london is not) i believe it is wrong.

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Selena Carnell — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 18:40:53 GMT

[quote user="nikki.mits"]

[quote user="Selena (Hypnorm) Carnell VN"]

im a head nurse on about 18K in a small practice. senior nurse is on about 17.5k

[/quote]are you serious??? Where do you work??! That is outrageous. I was a head nurse previously and i was earning about 27K.

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

enigmaticat-uk — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:45:12 GMT

Yes, I think the number of contracted hours is a pretty important part of the wage equation - 30-35 hours pw @ 18.5K is more like 21-24K for a full-time equivalent so doesn't sound too bad depending on amount of responsibility & region.

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Gemma Holdsworth — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:01:15 GMT

I absolutely agree Sal the 1st, but if you are pouring your heart and soul into a job you love, going above and beyond what is expected of you I feel the salary should reflect this too. There are too many posts around that suggest that it is difficult for the forum postee to live on their salary which is such a shame :(

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Sal the 1st — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 09:55:34 GMT

and I think you have hit the nail squarely on the head there Selena - the job isn't just about the money (and I am talking any job here not just nursing) its also to do with the working conditions and for me at least I value a job with good working conditions and a wage that I can live on over one that might pay more but have poorer working conditions. Different people have different priorities, but these wage surveys and average wage figures just don't take this into account.

I would rather work for a decent boss that I can get along with and reasonable conditions than one I can't stand and every time I see them I find myself wondering how I could hide the body

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Gemma Holdsworth — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 09:33:15 GMT

I have lots of higher paying roles that you may be interested in, feel free to get in touch (I cover the whole of the North) :)

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Selena Carnell — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:22:20 GMT

thanks, personally don't think 18.5k was an awful wage, considering it was a very small practice. and i was working 30-35 hours a week. paid hourly, with no on call or OOH. It varies greatly where you are based and size of practice... i don't know many places that pay a head nurse over 24k.

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

VetNurse Anon a/c — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:13:56 GMT

As a Vet nurse in the North-west on a salary of £15000, the idea of anything over £17000 sounds great ( I'm not a deputy or head nurse)

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Sophie Millar — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:02:22 GMT

Can we appreciate Selena posted that in May, and has since got a new job

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Amanda — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:16:47 GMT

As a deputy head you want to be asking for around £22-24K based on a 40 hour week. A standard RVN should hope for £18k so defo needs more for head. Good luck :-)

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Gemma Holdsworth — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:48:21 GMT

Hi Flow,

Could you give an idea of the area you are looking to work in and maybe the size of the practice? This will make giving a salary range much more accurate :)

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

nikki.mits — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:37:27 GMT

[quote user="Selena (Hypnorm) Carnell VN"]

im a head nurse on about 18K in a small practice. senior nurse is on about 17.5k

[/quote]are you serious??? Where do you work??! That is outrageous. I was a head nurse previously and i was earning about 27K.

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Jill Macdonald — Fri, 15 May 2015 11:48:09 GMT

As others have said, and also that what may be expected from you will vary massively with this job title. Are you there to be the 'go to' person with queries, be in charge of ordering and arrange rep talks, or are you to have a fundamental input to business and personnel management at the practice?

One thing I would always say (and this has come on previous posts on this topic), it is imperative that you are offered a clear job description and what your roles and remit will be, BEFORE you start the position. This will give you a clear idea of what is expected of you, so that you can plan as to how you are going to acheive that, and ask for all the necessary tools that you may need - whether it be time, a computer, the correct authority etc. This will prevent all the frustrations that can occur when this step is omitted!

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

PSA-David — Thu, 14 May 2015 11:48:51 GMT

as the above has said. it seriously depends on the location v the cost of living, also practices try to get around overtime pay by giving you a set salary and stating its "average 37.5 a week. where as when as you look at time sheets your looking at 40+ hours.

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

bunnyshouse — Tue, 12 May 2015 19:17:51 GMT

I guess it really does depend on where u are in the country and what kind of practice you are in.

I knew of a few practices in the london area offering up to 30k. Even though i am not a head nurse i get significantly more than 18.5k. I would also say you have to be willing to ask for the right amount for you before accepting a job and if they are not able/wiliing and it is a deal breaker thank them for their time and consideration and move on to the next practice. There are plenty of opportunities available.

hope this helps.

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Mark Hedberg — Tue, 12 May 2015 14:50:11 GMT

http://www.bvna.org.uk/downloads/spvs-salaries-survey-2014-nurses.pdf this is the spvs nurse salary survey; it doesn't mention head nurses specifically but worth a look!

RE: Wage of a deputy head nurse

Selena Carnell — Mon, 11 May 2015 19:22:07 GMT

im a head nurse on about 18K in a small practice. senior nurse is on about 17.5k