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kkatkatk — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:36:19 GMT

fab news

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Amy Homer. RVN. NCert A&CC — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 15:58:33 GMT

Well done

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funkyfish — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:39:03 GMT

Great News !!!

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BTCC Fan RVN — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:17:48 GMT

Thank you to everyone for their kind words. Thought i would let everyone know my amazing news...i have been offered a new job :)

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kkatkatk — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:50:05 GMT

It sounds like you have been very unlucky to end up working in a situation like that. It is a sad fact That there are bullies in every walk of life no matter which career you do. But There are lovely people out there who work in nice friendly teams (like mine) where you obviously belong and so I hope you stay strong and find a place where people treat you with the respect and kindness you deserve.

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BTCC Fan RVN — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:29:38 GMT

Thank you everyone x its not getting any better so i will taking action

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Honeybadger — Sat, 06 Sep 2014 21:53:20 GMT

I echo what everyone has said. Sorry to hear you are feeling so low :( The Vetlife website may be helpful to you http://www.vetlife.org.uk

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Robyn Hutchinson — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:00:48 GMT

Hi BTCC Fan SVN!
This is awful to hear and completely unnecessary, an employer won't be an employer for very long if they treat their staff this way. My advice to you, if quitting etc is not an option, would be to keep your head down & concentrate on your course as much as possible, including spare time at work, sometimes silence speaks volumes and maybe if you let him see that its getting to you, it makes you more of an easy target. Try to ignore the negative comments, I'm sure you're a fantastic student and will continue to be fantastic when you are a nurse.
Are you registered with the BVNA? It may be worth contacting them for advice (legal and more). I would also advise making a note of when things are said (dates etc), what is said or even record from your phone in your pocket - being forced out of work due to bullying etc is constructive dismissal!

I hope this helps, keep your chin up and post again soon, let us all know how you get on with your training! Good luck xx
Robyn Hutchinson RVN.

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Karen Carver — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 15:25:12 GMT

So sorry to hear this. Have you tried the VDS? They offer people to speak over the phone confidentially about anything. Anxiety/stress/difficulties at work. Hope you get it sorted x

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Dreamcatcher — Thu, 04 Sep 2014 09:34:12 GMT

Totally appalling, not often I recommend going down a legal route but that's totally not on, no-one should be treated like that, especially during your training when your boss should be there to help guide you and help you gain confidence. I was in a similar situation myself (though not as bad, I got sworn at but there was no name calling) and I know how it feels to be made to feel useless. Since moving practices my confidence in my skills have returned and all the vets I've worked with have been nothing but complimentary about my ability as a nurse. It's reassured me because for ages I blamed myself and thought I was a crap nurse but looking back I can see that it was his attitude that was the problem and not mine or my ability. What I'm saying is, please don't let this individual get to you and bring you down, there are lots of lovely practices out there and you really deserve better.

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Wed, 03 Sep 2014 20:16:46 GMT

My site may help http://www.lifeafteradultbullying.com

You can also record l always understood that the person had to know you are recording but actually it is up to the judge if he/she admits it in court or not. That info came from a very good lawyer who l was asking advice for a friend in an abusive relationship.

Either use your phone or get a little voice activated recorder about £14 from Amazon. Then see a no win no fee lawyer with the info. You do need to record everything on hard paper for times and dates though. If others will stand up great.

For what it is worth sounds like my old boss total *** (boss where l trained) when l passed he said he always knew l would pass...that came via a 3rd party. Last time l met him was at a cpd event and l believe l told him if he followed me around the place any more he would find my knee in a very delicate place (only said more bluntly saying polite here due to mixed company) At this point he got the hint and went the other way,

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Alasdair Mathieson — Tue, 02 Sep 2014 22:18:06 GMT

You really mustn't take this. Take legal advice and/or leave.

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:03:39 GMT

yes you are right it can be useful in an unfair dismissal case - but don't go in guns blazing without getting advice - it could equally work against you

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Sammyannieantha — Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:11:00 GMT

I cannot disclose on here why but all I can say is a recording has proved vital to someone I knows case for unfair dismissal. I cannot say anymore but there's no harm in recording and showing a solicitor - they can advise you better x

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Sal the 1st — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:22:52 GMT

http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=efc5c734-a6be-49b5-b692-631b141112d0

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Sammyannieantha — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:22:33 GMT

P.S I agree with moving.. jenny at vetconnect is fantastic. It's no good being somewhere like that and getting ill from it. It might be a step back a little with training but you do not deserved to be treated like that!I'd seriously contemplate taking it further. I do hope ur ok xx

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Sammyannieantha — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:17:38 GMT

Id record it..apart from telling him to stick it!Why does the person causing the problem need a recording??

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Sal the 1st — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:31:32 GMT

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Have you a recording facility on your phone ? You then have evidence of the appalling things he is calling you if you need to form a case against him.

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if you are going down this route you need to give the person causing you the problems a copy of the recording

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nickyc — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:46:44 GMT

As others mentioned totally not acceptable. Def keep a written record with dates/times etc. Contact your training provider and see what your options are for moving to another TP but it should be possible, and they should be able to keep things confidential.. I would also seek some help from citizens advice, and the bvna may also be able to help you. Def do not just put up with it.. its not right and will have a massive impact on your QOL

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tanith.lee — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:14:47 GMT

That sounds really horrible. Are you enrolled with the RCVS? If you're doing a RCVS approved course then you should still be able to continue the course at another training practice. I was having a similar (but not as bad) experience in my third year and luckily as I was with a big company, I was able to move practices. However, when it was bad I was researching leaving the company but my main priority was to qualify. I would suggest if you do want to move practices, speak to a recruitment agency. I use Vet Connect and Recruit 4 Vets for locuming but they should be able to help you find somewhere permanent as a SVN. Hope you find a solution

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molladog — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 14:23:23 GMT

Have you a recording facility on your phone ? You then have evidence of the appalling things he is calling you if you need to form a case against him.

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Mark Hedberg — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:56:44 GMT

100% agree, namecalling and bullying is unacceptable in practice - your college is there to be your advocate and they have a legal and moral obligation to keep you safe. Get in touch immediately!

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Celine — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:09:52 GMT

This is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR from any member of staff let alone the boss. This would absolutely be grounds for some sort of legal action so please make sure you are documenting everything in a notebook (probably at home is best) in the meantime while you are trying to sort the situation out, as having some sort of evidence would help your case if it has to go to employment tribunal etc.

Go to your course supervisor and arrange to have a meeting with them to discuss urgently, you may have some kind of student support services at college who can also point you in the right direction, but please don't give up if your supervisor etc is a bit unhelpful or it's out of their area of knowledge, DO NOT listen if anyone tells you you might have to just put up with it until you get qualified, it is not acceptable!!

Yes you may need to switch to another practice or at worst put your studies on hold until you can find another placement (I know nothing about the current VN training so probably can't advise) but that's just a small stumbling block compared to the massive loss of self-esteem you will face if you stay in your current employment any longer....

Keep us posted please, good luck x

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vickicannings — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 13:02:12 GMT

That is really awful I'm really sorry to hear that. Definitely speak to your college, they should offer you the support you need and advise you on what to do next.

Make sure you keep talking to your family/friends about it if you are starting to feel depressed with it. From someone who has been there do not keep it to yourself, the best thing you can do is let it out. Even if you don't feel like talking to someone you know maybe call a support group just so you feel you have someone there for you.

http://www.vetlife.org.uk/employment/employment-resources

Have a look here and see if there is anyone you feel you could call. And I'm sure there are plenty of us on here you can talk to if you need to.

I hope you find a solution soon, keep your chin up and don't let him drag you down

Vicki x

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Lisa Whitehouse — Mon, 01 Sep 2014 12:00:23 GMT

That sounds so bad for you. Have you got a head nurse/ practice manager you can talk to? Alternatively speak to your college, this is not acceptable behaviour for you to tolerate, can you change to new training practice?