City and guilds OSCE's

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

kerryfeehan — Wed, 04 Jun 2014 15:49:07 GMT

Thank you Sharon and Rob, great help

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

Rob Watkins — Wed, 04 Jun 2014 15:26:32 GMT

Hi Kerry

If you take a look at my profile page you should be able to download a copy of a standard operating procedure for skin prep.

Section 2... Initial skin preparation relates well to the new TP05 OSCE task.

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

SharonSP — Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:39:02 GMT

Use the BSAVA 5th Edition book to help with your calc. RER is still calculated as BER which is 30 x BW + 70 = kcals/day. This is for anything over 2kg.

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

SharonSP — Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:35:34 GMT

These tasks are currently only RCVS OSCE, not C&G.

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

Keri Cosby — Mon, 02 Jun 2014 20:47:36 GMT

I wasn't aware of these new osces. Where can I find them? They are not on the city and guilds website.

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

kerryfeehan — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 22:19:23 GMT

[quote user="JaneRVN"]

Beware that the DVDs have been out for a while and therefore the tasks may have changed a little - so check your methodology for any differences.

There is a lot of evidence about sterilisation and folding bags - but mainly American at the moment and is the sort of thing CCs should be getting at standardisation events. A lot is via human nursing and the articles can sometimes only be accessed with accounts like Athens.

I appreciate it is frustrating - for those tasks I advise never to fold bags. If you use the med and lrg bag there is no need to fold.

I hope all goes well at the next sitting - and try some of the practice options above.

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Do you have any advice with regards to the 3 new OSCEs? I know the diabetes one was a previous one but the other two are new. I am no longer at college as just waiting to pass my practical now. I have been to revision sessions at college but the lecturers are unsure of how to do the calculation for the diabetic osce and I have concerns over the two new ones as I have no idea what the RCVS is specifically wanting. I know cleaning a kennel and surgical prep of patient sounds straight forward but there are many ways of doing them but I want to be sure to do it the way required. With surgical prep of patients I have always been taught using circular motions but I know from the steps that this is not what they are looking for. Thanks

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

JaneRVN — Sat, 31 May 2014 19:34:43 GMT

Beware that the DVDs have been out for a while and therefore the tasks may have changed a little - so check your methodology for any differences.

I appreciate it is frustrating - for those tasks I advise never to fold bags. If you use the med and lrg bag there is no need to fold.

I hope all goes well at the next sitting - and try some of the practice options above.

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

kerryfeehan — Fri, 30 May 2014 21:12:43 GMT

There are also a series of useful dvds available. I found these helpful as I would practice at work and then refresh myself with the dvds. You can almost learn them off by heart. Pricey but worth the money and my practice paid for them as can be used for future students too

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

kerryfeehan — Fri, 30 May 2014 20:48:55 GMT

[quote user="JaneRVN"]

Are any of you getting OSCE prep at college? This could all be covered there.

Remember you get 1 min to read the task before entering the station - your prep prior to the exam should be making a plan so you can think about this when reading the task:-

- calcs first is a good plan

- get equipment ready

- do you need PPE/WHO hand wash?

- key steps

You are not failed on silly things - if you fold the self-seal bags incorrectly the steam cannot penetrate the item being sterilised.

There is water if you ask for it - there are extra examiners around the room.

You can ask the examiners anything you like - obvs related to the exam. If they cannot answer they will let you know. Better to ask and move on, than worry in silence and waste time.

VD hips is possible in under 6 mins, but does need practice. If college doesn't provide sessions in your SOW or revision days try and get to some elsewhere - ideally at the centre you could sit at. This means you know your way there and little stuff like parking etc, as well as having seen some of their equipment.

Or you could get together with like minded students and practice on days off? I had students who met at each others practices on days off - got to know different equipment and also learned to critique and examine each other.

NB - I am the Clinical Skills Tutor at CAW and an examiner! Vested interest in offering revision courses - but many are available.

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I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the comment regarding folding the packaging. I was failed as I quote ' the examiner did not consider it neat'. The stick down fold was done satisfactory and it was the fact that I folded the packet that was the issue. I did extensive research and also checked with my lecturers at college and we could not find any information that suggested that by folding over the first package to fit it into the second packet, that the steam would not penetrate. I stated this in my appeal which is why they stated the fail was due to neatness, not that the package would impair sterilisation. Everyone I have shown my appeal response to, including my manager, head nurse and lecturers have all said that it is ridiculous and quote 'nit picking'. Hence I still feel extremely frustrated.

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

JaneRVN — Fri, 30 May 2014 17:59:26 GMT

Are any of you getting OSCE prep at college? This could all be covered there.

Remember you get 1 min to read the task before entering the station - your prep prior to the exam should be making a plan so you can think about this when reading the task:-

- calcs first is a good plan

- get equipment ready

- do you need PPE/WHO hand wash?

- key steps

You are not failed on silly things - if you fold the self-seal bags incorrectly the steam cannot penetrate the item being sterilised.

There is water if you ask for it - there are extra examiners around the room.

You can ask the examiners anything you like - obvs related to the exam. If they cannot answer they will let you know. Better to ask and move on, than worry in silence and waste time.

NB - I am the Clinical Skills Tutor at CAW and an examiner! Vested interest in offering revision courses - but many are available.

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

Melissa Edmondson — Fri, 30 May 2014 03:12:58 GMT

Hi, I first did my practical exam in September last year and I failed, nerves got the better of me! I just had a bit of a panic and rushed through everything, thinking the sooner I was out of the booth, the better... this was not the case!

I did my re-sit in November and I passed. When you first go in the booth just take in everything; look at what equipment/materials are available and just go over in your mind again what you are going do. If you do a mistake, tell the examiner and redo. Take your time- if you finish before the 6mins are up; just think/check over what you have done before you leave the station incase of any mistakes.

I too did all the calculations first like Kerry, just mainly to get them out of the way. :)

Good Luck Kerry and Stacy!

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

Sierra Bravo — Thu, 29 May 2014 21:56:03 GMT

Oh wow! Thanks for sharing i think it's really helpful! I didn't even think about a bottle of water! I'm just really scared about asking the examiner to do things, feels like it's going against every rule I've ever known about examiners!! Good luck for July!!! X

Re: City and guilds OSCE's

kerryfeehan — Thu, 29 May 2014 21:15:25 GMT

Hi, I sat mine in March and they failed me for the most ridiculous reasons! Mine is RCVS but I'm sure they are the same? Here are my top tips based on my experience and feed back on why they failed me!

practice against the clock! Positioning for a hip score and having to write kennel club and microchip numbers down in 6 minutes is impossible in my opinion! Also the x ray machines don't move so you have to move the cassette!
if packaging instruments don't fold the bag when double bagging! They failed me on this as they said it was not neat!?!
I found doing calculation parts first best
take a bottle of water to sip in between stations- I was not aware I could do this and was dying of dehydration due to nerves!

I will be re sitting mine in July, good luck!