frogs

Re: frogs

Alison Clare Hickman — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 09:27:57 GMT

HURRAH!!

Go frogs. Go frogs. Go frogs!!

xxxx

Re: frogs

Sal the 1st — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:25:11 GMT

UPDATE

saw my first frog this morning when moving some plant pots

so I still have at least 1 frog left - and the weather must be getting better for it to want to come out

Re: frogs

Sal the 1st — Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:47:20 GMT

havent seen a frog alive or dead in over a week now which is really unusual - I hope some of them survive even if they have moved elsewhere

Re: frogs

shakira miles — Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:28:52 GMT

Hey I would take the bodies and send them off and test for disease..... as there is a disease that is wiping out the amphibian population all over Panamar its called Chytrid fungus, also take a water sample too.

Its definatly worth checking this.

Good luck.

Shakira x

Re: frogs

Sal the 1st — Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:32:20 GMT

thank you for that link - next dead frog is going in the freezer to see if we can get to the bottom of this while I still have a few frogs left

Re: frogs

Hannah25uk — Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:21:43 GMT

Not sure if you already know about this site but maybe worth a look?

http://www.froglife.org/

Re: frogs

Sal the 1st — Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:28:24 GMT

will try anything at the moment - dead frogs now =17, does not appear to be affecting the toads tho so fingers crossed. I dont think I have many frogs left now

Re: frogs

Caro Laithwaite VN — Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:22:24 GMT

Sal some straw shoved into a pantyhose will do to help absorb alge and clean the pond. you can often buy pre made pads but better if can get some barley straw from one of the farmers or maybe some one with access could send you some not need a lot in a pond your size.

Barley Straw and Ponds

Re: frogs

Mark Hedberg — Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:13:18 GMT

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Amphibians can absorb oxygen through their skin; an overheated pond with low oxygen content can suffocate adult frogs. If you've got an algal bloom going on, you're also going to have toxins affecting the frogs. Plus, high temperatures can increase their metabolic demand and stress on their physiology.

Other than making that slightly pedantic comment, I mean...

(And I'm not even going to get into that frog virus going around!)

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I bow down before your obvious excellent amphibian knowledge..!! (But if the frog was in the water and had insuffucient O2, wouldn't it just go to the surface and breathe? )

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You're absolutely right, it would - in ordinary conditions.

If you've got an algal bloom, though, many (not all) bets are off. You have high temperatures causing stress, and to add injury to injury, some algae can produce neurotoxins, depending on the species of algae.

Also, sudden changes in water quality can cause frogs to go into shock. (Sal mentioned that the mortality happened after a massive pond clearout.)

The watchword for pond water is slow, gradual, boring, change.

Re: frogs

Gillian Mostyn — Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:26:39 GMT

[quote user="Mark Hedberg"]

Other than making that slightly pedantic comment, I mean...

(And I'm not even going to get into that frog virus going around!)

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I bow down before your obvious excellent amphibian knowledge..!! (But if the frog was in the water and had insuffucient O2, wouldn't it just go to the surface and breathe? )

Re: frogs

Mark Hedberg — Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:00:08 GMT

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thanks - will start doing that tonight when I get home, I dont have a pump in the pond but think I may invest in one now

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Doesn't need to be a massive one, the trick here is that you want to circulate and aerate the water a bit. After about two weeks you can cut down to twice weekly 10% water changes, then weekly water changes. And next time, don't pull out more than about a quarter of the weed and plant life at a time.

Re: frogs

Mark Hedberg — Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:47:06 GMT

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[quote user="Mark Hedberg"]Toxins and lack of oxygen suffocate anything living in there.[/quote]

erm....might certainly have an impact on tadpoles but adult frogs breathe air Mark! ;-)

Other than making that slightly pedantic comment, I agree with you!

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Other than making that slightly pedantic comment, I mean...

(And I'm not even going to get into that frog virus going around!)

Re: frogs

Sal the 1st — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:51:02 GMT

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when I was home in April, I heard the tadpole season was late due to the extended cold weather you were having, so this may have had an impact on the number seen, with a shorter season?! you are very brave welcoming so many frogs and toads to your garden - they scare me 8) good luck

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yes the tadpoles were late this year (by about 3 weeks when I checked my diary) - the frogs and toads have always been around, maybe not as many as there are now. Started changing the water over this evening.

Re: frogs

Lisa Goodship — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:46:21 GMT

Re: frogs

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:00:33 GMT

[quote user="Mark Hedberg"]Toxins and lack of oxygen suffocate anything living in there.[/quote]

erm....might certainly have an impact on tadpoles but adult frogs breathe air Mark! ;-)

Other than making that slightly pedantic comment, I agree with you!

Re: frogs

Sal the 1st — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:52:14 GMT

thanks - will start doing that tonight when I get home, I dont have a pump in the pond but think I may invest in one now

Re: frogs

Mark Hedberg — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:51:21 GMT

Your water temperature is probably very high; you could be having an algal bloom. Toxins and lack of oxygen suffocate anything living in there. Change 10% of the water every other day over the next two weeks. And don't thin the duckweed out quite so quickly next time.

Rule of thumb with aquaria and ponds is never to do anything drastic, because the ponds are pretty good at compensating or getting used to adverse events.

Do you have a pump or water filter in the pond?