Is this allowed?

Re: Is this allowed?

AlexandraC — Fri, 07 Jun 2013 06:05:33 GMT

This is not unheard of and doesn't surprise me in the least! I come accross it a few times in practice - usually where there is a high turnover of nurses so the practice employs foreign new grads instead. I worked with one and he was totally useless and actually a liability as he thought he new what he was doing and clearly did not! RVCS should monitor this, but of course they won't , Grrr!

Re: Is this allowed?

Celine — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:48:06 GMT

Yes, I'd like to second that bump!

Will the RCVS be using some of my hard-won (and reluctantly given) annual retention fee towards protecting job opportunities for myself and my colleagues by actively regulating and discouraging this sort of thing?

I hope the RCVS realises that their response (or, more likely, complete lack of) to this situation gives the opportunity to redeem themselves in the eyes of many RVNs who, frankly, see the College as a bit of a bureaucratic, ineffectual joke, completely uninterested in the concerns of this profession.

Re: Is this allowed?

Katie Mansfield — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 19:11:12 GMT

*BUMP*

cos I'm interested (and noisy )

K x

Re: Is this allowed?

Helen Tottey — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 19:44:25 GMT

[quote user="Claire Millington"]

A veterinary surgeon can only practise in the UK if he or she is correctly registered as a member of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons (RCVS), and will not usually have the qualifications to register as a veterinary nurse. Under the Veterinary Surgeons Act 1966, certain veterinary procedures may be delegated to veterinary nurses (those listed or registered with the RCVS), or to student veterinary nurses (enrolled with the RCVS). Anyone who is not correctly registered or listed with the RCVS may not carry out these procedures.

Claire

RCVS Coms

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So will the RCVS be contacting the practice that is recruiting to let them know this?

Re: Is this allowed?

Claire Millington — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:41:59 GMT

Hi zalenski81

We saw your post and wanted to clarify the position - as you rightly imply, veterinary surgeons and veterinary nurses are two different professions, with each contributing different skills to the veterinary team and having its own regulatory framework.

Recent changes to the Code of Professional Conduct for veterinary surgeons and VNs also now require both to keep to the core standards of the Practice Standards Scheme (PSS). This emphasises that a veterinary nurse is a person whose name is entered in the List of Veterinary Nurses (which incorporates the Register of Veterinary Nurses).

There is also supporting guidance to the Codes about delegating to veterinary nurses (see http://www.rcvs.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/code-of-professional-conduct-for-veterinary-surgeons/supporting-guidance/delegation-to-veterinary-nurses) and we are also working to achieve legislative changes that will further protect the title of veterinary nurse.

Hope this helps

Claire

RCVS Coms

Re: Is this allowed?

Mark Hedberg — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 16:54:46 GMT

[quote user="zalenski81"]

I thought it wasn't allowed for vets in training to do the job of a vet nurse? This sort of advert would put me off applying anyway....

http://www.vetclick.com/jobs/locum-veterinary-nurses/hampshire/southampton-veterinary-nursevet-in-process-of-mrcvs-registration-p4929.php

What's the deal?

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Well, it's certainly a can of worms, I'll say that. It's not illegal for a vet to do a nurse's job, as far as I know. This is the first I've seen someone advertising for it, though!