INFURIATING!!!

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A Little TLC — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:25:55 GMT

hahaha, yes it is. I'm VERY good at avoiding the cameras though, lol!! been caught out a few times, but as for the series on at the mo, i was very jammy! hehe!!!

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Fleabee99 — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:00:20 GMT

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I do indeed it is the best.

As for rehabilitation of wildlife, we have specialised of everything. The hospital is kept qiet at all times to avoid stress, dark colours worn, no eye contact/talking to the animals. Once well enough they go to outside pens to reaclimatise before release - places to hide away from us etc.

Hand-rearing is all done off site with volunteer foster mums, this means they dont get used to lots of different people, they are reared soley by one person. they all come back plenty wild!!! ive the scars to prove it!!!

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ooo aint that the one on the telly? do we have a celebrity in our midst lol

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A Little TLC — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:11:37 GMT

I do indeed it is the best.

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Diane Westwood — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:17:39 GMT

Do you work at St Tiggys TLC?

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Claire Cameron — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:41:00 GMT

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Hey TLC!

You mention that you keep a high number of disabled wildlife casualties permanently. Could you explain the rationale behind this? Personally, I'm in two minds about whether this is fair to the animal so I would be really interested to hear your thoughts.

Apologies for hijacking the post. To add my bit, I always check to see if things lying by the road are dead or not. Last year I had an unfortunate experience with an RTA moorhen which sprang to life in my car (no, I didn't have a box!) and covered my seats with smelly green poo! After a few days in care it was released. My car stank of fish for months!

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Ooh stinky moorhen poo!!! hum - ding a ling!!! they do so much of it too!! anyway...

Basically, we have acres and acres of land. which is brilliant.

permenant 3 legged deer, can run just as flipping fast, but we dont risk releasing in case they get caught in fences = runs the risk of losing another leg. We have blind badgers, obviously a danger in the wild as they should be nocturnal, 3 legged hegehogs, blind hedgehogs, bald hedgehogs one winged/one legged birds aviarys with perces running up and down. Imprinted animals. oh god, the list is endless!

it all goes by quality of life, if we can keep them, we do our best. If they are unlikely to cope, then unfortunatly we have to do the bad thing. most of the permenant animals can be seen from our education unit which is great for both raising awareness and educating both the geeral public and veterinary professionals.

they all have brilliant environmental enrichment and have an ace time!! free food! lol!!

hope this expains well enough, feel free to ask away if i haven't covered!!!

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Sounds good TLC, I was reserved when I first read you rehabilitated wildlife as I went to college with an RSPCA nurse who said they have amputated foxes legs before and released them after cage rest for 6 weeks, I personally didnt agree with this as the animal is wild and under serious stress in a veterinary environment for 6weeks, then to be released with 3 legs?

They have also hand reared badgers and kept them at the practice whilst hand rearing? then re-releasing? surely making them tame?!

hmm interesting topic! xx

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A Little TLC — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:46:30 GMT

[quote user="Rapunzel"]

Hey TLC!

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Ooh stinky moorhen poo!!! hum - ding a ling!!! they do so much of it too!! anyway...

Basically, we have acres and acres of land. which is brilliant.

they all have brilliant environmental enrichment and have an ace time!! free food! lol!!

hope this expains well enough, feel free to ask away if i haven't covered!!!

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Helen Freer — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:28:31 GMT

I remember when I was learning to drive and out on a lesson, I did an emergency stop as a cat walked across the road and stopped infront of my car, it looked at me and then walked off. My driving instructor said that i had not a near perfect emergency stop but that if I did that in the test I would fail because you are only at law meant to stop for children and dogs and not cats I told him that I would stop again if it happened and his advice to me was if anyone crashed due to me stopping that i was to say i thought it was a dog!

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JaneRVN — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:12:27 GMT

Final point - depending on the size of bird/cat etc drivers often don't notice they have hit anything, so may not be respect or lack of, just shher blissful ignorance.

However the not stopping to move/check if dead annoys me, but if you don't have any animal experience/know where a vets is then you are unlikely to think you can help, so probably won't stop.

My boyf does not work in the vet industry and gets upset seeing an animal with stitches in so if he wasn't with me would want to stop and help but have no idea how!

I wonder how many people are like that?

I now have him trained after an xmas eve incident where he saw a dead cat on a busy road but was late for work (v xmassy industry). He called me and detoured from his route, picked me up (with bin bags) to get the remains of the cat off the road. He said he could see a head and shoulder blades so I though I could at least get collar/chip off it. When we got back cat totally flat and nothing to pick up! He is now prepped with bin bags and box in back of car for future eventuallities! He felt awful, but we put a poster up describing the cat saying the date and place and that it had died, so hopefully the owner at least knows what happened to it.

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Rapunzel — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:53:24 GMT

Hey TLC!

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A Little TLC — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:34:27 GMT

i do agree. I just wanted to comment as this is a subject very close to my heart. Working soley with wildlife, probably the majority of cases are RTA's. After treating thousands of them, it can only be a subject i have a view on.

As we have the facilites to keep a pretty high number of permenant animals we are very lucky. And itssooooooo great to watch them pull through! Especially knowing if it wasn't for you it would never be the same. I bloody love it.....

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Gillian Mostyn — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:18:15 GMT

I would like to comment that I have never, and would never, let financial reasons dictate my treatment of wildlife. I am very happy to treat them if I can, and have gone to a lot of effort for many little critters. Hedgehog amputations, fixing owl wings etc (if they can have good QOL in captivity). But it is a fact that when a bird or a small mammal has an argument with a tonne of metal, death or euthanasia is often the outcome.

As far as how and when it is despatched, I stress the word humane. I wouldn't want to cause a creature anymore distress than necessary. I am a vet and am therefore able to make a clinical decision and if necesary, euthanase an animal at the side of the road. I don't suggest that everyone does the same! I simply tried to tell the original poster that although the driver was obviously wrong not to stop, that perhaps leaving it at the side of the road, although kindly meant, wasn' the kindest option in that case. As I have said, it was meant as advice, not criticism.

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Leigh Hinsley RVN NCert(BDev) MBVNA — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:07:49 GMT

I have to confess - I've even stopped my car and picked up a pigeon that had been hit by a car to get it euthed at work. I know many people say it's "only" a pigeon, but it was still flapping abuot, clearly in pain and bein picked alive by two bloody crows!

I would like to know how to break a birds neck for instances such as this, but I'd panic I weren't doing it right!

The worst thing I've ever seen on a road is a cat that had literally been FLATTENED in a residential area - so not only had the driver not stopped when he hit it, but many many people must have driven over the body to achieve what I saw - I wanted to get it off the road but there was literally no way of peeling it off. I hate the thought of that cat recieving blow pon blow - who knows how long it took to die, I hop it was quickly. If I were to drive out and find my pet like that it would make the loss 1000 times worse.

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A Little TLC — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:07:37 GMT

I'm glad I posted now!

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Diane Westwood — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:29:06 GMT

I agree with every word you said too. I have held up traffic and taken a pheasant rta to the emergency service at 7am on a sunday morning.

I always check to see if animals are actually dead. You would be surprised at how many I have picked up that weren't. A few months ago I saw 5 cars drive past a cat at the side of the road. She did look dead, but I stopped to move the body. She reached out her paw and tried to focus on me but she had a head injury. So we went to the emergency. She died the same day.

Wild or domestic, I do what I can.

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A Little TLC — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:16:46 GMT

My pleasure

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Fleabee99 — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:46:16 GMT

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Well, seeing as I work with wildlife and its been a passion my entire life, i got angry with this post.

The bloke did wrong, its easy to see, hes obviously an arsehole. However some of the comments i have seen made me even more angry. I didnt really know whether to write myself or not as i dont want to be on the end of any backlash, so i am not using anyones quotes.

Personally, i think wildlife should be given every ounce of respect, the same as domestic animals. they fend for themselves, they have no comfy sofa to curl up on, or their dinner delivered on a plate. they are one their own out there coping.

any animal i find on the road comes back with me to the hospital never 'dealt with' at the side of the road. any i find, i have been too late for are laid in a bush....

this is one of the reasons i chose to stay out of practice, just because they are not owned, or pay for themselves. Everything deserves a life.....

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i fully agree with everything you have said and wish you had commented earlier!! lol as i was the only person trying to get this point across and was just slaughter basically !!

thank you for your comment

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Fleabee99 — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:44:13 GMT

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im so glad i read this strain (not) Poeple in general are not nice. the degree of not nice ness is best not considered. Many years ago we had a (dead) dog brought in following a RTA. It had been hit by a 4x4. Unfortunatly the 10yo owner of the dog had hung on to his beloved pets lead as they were both dragged up the road. The driver did not stop. So it doesnt make any difference if its a dog, cat, child some poepl are just c******

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horrid as that it i am not suprised at all and agree that people are not nice at all!

as the song says "people = shit"

(by slipknot if anyone doesnt know)

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A Little TLC — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:43:00 GMT

Well, seeing as I work with wildlife and its been a passion my entire life, i got angry with this post.

any animal i find on the road comes back with me to the hospital never 'dealt with' at the side of the road. any i find, i have been too late for are laid in a bush....

this is one of the reasons i chose to stay out of practice, just because they are not owned, or pay for themselves. Everything deserves a life.....

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Mrs Dot Dot — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:50:01 GMT

Ditto! It doesn't matter how hard you try.... or not now, as in my case.... I am definately becoming more of a recluse....! ?

And arrogance!!!!

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Gillian Mostyn — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:46:42 GMT

[quote user="jan"]Poeple in general are not nice. the degree of not nice ness is best not considered[/quote]

OOO - deep!

I must admit that as I get older, although not wiser, I find myself more and more disappointed in the human race. Selfishness, greed and passing judgement on others bother me the most.

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jan — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:03:27 GMT

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Fleabee99 — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:42:52 GMT

driving to leeds last night, pitch black, going 40mph, a fox jumps in the road, i managed to emergency stop and not smear its brains across the road, well done me

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Fleabee99 — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:45:28 GMT

[quote user="supastar101"]but on the flipside, annoys me that the person who injured it didn't bother![/quote]

THANK YOU!!! finally someone!

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Mac Feather — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:59:05 GMT

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As I have already said Sarah, I wasn't criticising you. I was putting my point of view and trying to offer a little advice. How we act around wildlife is completely different to domestic animals, that's all.

I agree that it would have been nice for the guy in front of you to stop. I just struggle to see what he coud have done really.

Oh well, to leave it on a good note, at least a fox had a meal that night. She might even have cubs....

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(the 'f' word)

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Mac Feather — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:56:55 GMT

Please dont mention the 'f' word! Dont want any of them eating my wee lambs!!!!