The age old story....

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Heather Thorne — Sun, 12 May 2013 12:33:44 GMT

No further info sorry, I just happened to find it on here.

CVS are based all over the country so if you locate MYF training college i'd presume in that sort of area.

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oconnoanan — Sat, 11 May 2013 13:31:21 GMT

Hi Heather, thanks for that - looks amazing! Do you have any further info on it?

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Heather Thorne — Sat, 11 May 2013 12:55:17 GMT

http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/forums/t/21467.aspx

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Roseann21 — Wed, 08 May 2013 12:25:37 GMT

Have you seen the 1st Year trainee position advertised today? I'm sure you have, but just thought I'd point it out

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oconnoanan — Tue, 07 May 2013 17:50:31 GMT

[quote user="scotlass"]

Where do you live now? x

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Living in republic of ireland. And yes I know there is no money to be made. The girl who has left my current job [as a vet receptionist] is now working in a bank, cushy hours and good money, decent breaks, etc! But as I tells myself - you can do a job you love OR you can get paid! I'm so not fussed on the money end of it.... would be nice to fix my crappy car or have somewhere to live some day but sure, what can ya do?

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miss jack rat — Tue, 07 May 2013 16:21:29 GMT

Please be realistic - very few people make a fantastic living from veterinary work (including most of the vets I know), minimum wage is the best many trainees can expect most of the time if the practice is footing the bill for training and the cost of having somebody spending time mentoring them. If you are struggling with money now there is absolutely nothing to be gained from forcing yourself into penury in the hope that you will get a job that will be just as low paid. I understand you are keen to get a training position ( dont know where I got that idea - may have been from one of your umpteen posts ) but sometimes we cant just have what we want when we want it, and we have to wait until the time is right. I had to do factory work whilst the job I wanted became available - didnt want to do it, but I did it none the less to keep me afloat and to put me in a better position to be able to afford to move around for work, so my advice to you would be if you have the chance to find better paid work then take it to build up a few resources that you will need when the training job does come up.

Sorry if this isnt what you want to hear or you find it negative but just saying it as it is

Good for you for being honest! I came into this industry knowing what the pay would be like and it is! People looking into this career need to know that even if you are lucky enough to get a training postion its hard work and low pay. I dont mind i still ruddy love it! I myself have just qualified as an ANA and i would leave this industry for anything. I'm currently looking for a training post but im quite happy doing my receptionist/ANA position until one comes up. experience is invaluble so imsitcking here for as long as it takes. Like many others i'd pay to put myself thorugh it. I also feel that the situation is the same every where country to country and job to job its hard out there right now.

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Sal the 1st — Tue, 07 May 2013 08:57:10 GMT

[quote user="oconnoanan"]

Thanks, will keep looking!! Have been on zero money and now low paid for so long to try and break into this area, would be shame to throw in the towel and go work in corporate (boo.... hiss....).... So guess keep trying. Mebbe if I move to UK and locum as vet receptionist, mebbe nurse assistant job might come up at some point, and then hopefully, trainee someday!! Although I'll be about 90 years old by then!!

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Sorry if this isnt what you want to hear or you find it negative but just saying it as it is

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paula morgan — Tue, 07 May 2013 05:52:01 GMT

Where do you live now? x

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oconnoanan — Mon, 06 May 2013 21:44:16 GMT

[quote user="scotlass"]

me neither any receptionist I know are on a quite good rate. Good luck with trying to find something and its never too late, I just qualified and I am 48!! x

[/quote]Thanks, will keep looking!! Have been on zero money and now low paid for so long to try and break into this area, would be shame to throw in the towel and go work in corporate (boo.... hiss....).... So guess keep trying. Mebbe if I move to UK and locum as vet receptionist, mebbe nurse assistant job might come up at some point, and then hopefully, trainee someday!! Although I'll be about 90 years old by then!!

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paula morgan — Mon, 06 May 2013 17:11:30 GMT

me neither any receptionist I know are on a quite good rate. Good luck with trying to find something and its never too late, I just qualified and I am 48!! x

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Roseann21 — Mon, 06 May 2013 16:47:49 GMT

[quote user="Selena (Hypnorm) Carnell VN"]Reception pay is generally quite poor[/quote]

not what I've found - receptionists often get as much as trainee nurses, sometimes more.

I feel for you, OP, you are obviously doing everything you can to try and find a trainee position and I think some people are being a bit dismissive. Good luck to you, you sound like you would make a great nurse.

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Selena Carnell — Mon, 06 May 2013 16:23:07 GMT

Reception pay is generally quite poor. Practice management is good but you'd need management quails or veterinary experience. Very few jobs around.

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oconnoanan — Mon, 06 May 2013 12:52:07 GMT

Or I wonder if there is any money to be made in veterinary reception/practice management.... Might be worth moving to the UK for a properly paid reception position if I'm never going to get in to train as a nurse - at least I'd still be working in a veterinary environment.... Anyone any idea what wages are like?

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oconnoanan — Mon, 06 May 2013 12:45:37 GMT

I will happily relocate to any part of the UK for a training position. I'd also happily pay for my training. I've volunteered full time for 9 months each in two separate practices to get experience. I'm now working on minimum wage as a vet receptionist in a non-training practice. They rely on volunteers so there will never be a paid veterinary assistant position or training. I'd go back to college, but I've already spent 6 years studying for a degree and masters in a different subject, and I simply can't afford another three years. Plus it would seem ludicrous to go back to sitting in lecture theatres, when I actually want to be working IN a practice, getting hands on experience, and studying in my own time outside of work. Getting to point where I should think of giving up my passion for working in veterinary, and go get a "real" job.... even though I know I'd hate it... :-(

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paula morgan — Mon, 06 May 2013 06:02:15 GMT

I also paid for my own training and worked unpaid for a year at my practice, we have had some good enthusiastic students but also ones that expect to walk in and do our job, get paid, get their training paid and put zero effort in to the actual course and constantly have to be told what to do. The diploma course is a difficult course and if your not motivated then you wont pass it.

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JaneRVN — Sun, 05 May 2013 20:50:24 GMT

The RCVS are going to look at this as part of a work survey.

I have brought up the issue of VN shortage/TP red tape vs Vet Grad overload and no regulation of EMS. I did this with Nick Stace at TP Congress and will be chasing it up with him soon. (he is quite busy!)

Could people on here post about any regional blackspots about finding TPs? There may be a trend of people from these areas undertaking degree/FdSc/Full time diploma where placements are provided.

It seems ludicrous to me that there is currently no middle ground. Why must SVNs be so heavily regulated and quality assured during time in practice, yet Vet Students do not even get a H&S assessment of the practices they spend many hours at!

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Fuzzyduck — Sun, 05 May 2013 12:57:00 GMT

There are ways to do training without a training practice, ie the degree route. Also at my previous practice we had many trainees working unpaid and paying to put themselves through college, sometimes I think people expect practices to pay for their training when in other professions people pay for themselves to go to uni or do training etc. My practice paid for my training but I only got paid £40 a month for working full time as a token gesture. If its something you really want to do there are ways

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Sal the 1st — Sun, 05 May 2013 12:47:14 GMT

[quote user="Julie-Anne Harrison"]

I know it's a struggle but sometimes you have to also think of this from the practice POV. Some don't want SVNs 'cos their QVNs just don't have the time to train them, some don't want unqualifieds 'cos there is a big limit on what they can do without supervision. Plus (I believe) there's a lot of hoop jumping involved to become a TP and some places just can't be bothered with it.

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will also add there is a considerable drop out rate among trainees and this also acts as a deterrent to some practices

You also have to consider that the training as it is now whilst satisfying your requirements may not satisfy the needs of the practice. Often you can learn an appreciable amount whilst working in practice without the formal training. Dont discount practices that dont do the formal training, and dont limit yourself to practices that are TPs. Experience is just as important in some practices.

The number of training practices is not going to alter that much as things stand so its just going to be a case of taking whats on offer (same as I did when I started out, nothing has really changed that much, there has always been a shortage of training places)

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Julie-Anne Wilson — Sun, 05 May 2013 00:02:41 GMT