disinfectants

Re: disinfectants

Sal the 1st — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:48:58 GMT

http://www.medi-mark.co.uk/?/news/article/users_of_trigene_advance/

ok so they arent actually saying what the ingredient is just alluding to it and suggesting retesting which usually means more animal testing not just microbiological testing, especially as they are suggesting the involvement of a possible carcinogen. I appreciate Medichem have spent money getting their product certified but is this just a repeat of Genetrix spending money licensing Kbr just so they can wipe out the competition and charge what they like? Who suffers at the end of it? - well that would be the pet that needs the product the owner can no longer afford because of the price hike or the pet because the owner is having to pay more because of increased practice overheads

The more I read about this and others the more I wonder just how much underhand stuff is going on out there and the more distasteful it all becomes.

Again not singling out either Medichem or Genetrix as I am sure there are plenty more out there doing the same thing

Re: disinfectants

Sal the 1st — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:22:23 GMT

thanks will take a look

Re: disinfectants

Chippet — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:28:22 GMT

http://www.medi-mark.co.uk/?/international/article/snow That's the link. Got to scroll down to June though. I never got round to looking into it any more than that.

Re: disinfectants

Sal the 1st — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:02:43 GMT

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. In doing my research came across a claim that Anistel had an ingredient in it, which was a possible carcinogenic?? Has anyone else seen that, however it was on Medichems website (who i think produced Anigene?)

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haven't seen that - but would be interested in finding out which ingredient it applies to

Re: disinfectants

HomerRVN — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:44:59 GMT

Hi. I have used F10SC at several practices/zoos over the last 25years. I have found it to be effective, safe and easy to use. I have also used other products that are available in UK and would choose F10 over them everytime. I have asthma and skin issues, so find some disinfectants a major problem despite companies claiming they do not cause issues.

Don't be put off re price per bottle of F10..the dilution factor on the F10Sc is usually 1:250 so goes a long way IF diluted correctly.

Re: disinfectants

Chippet — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:57:44 GMT

We use f10, but just for nebulising birds.

Thanks for the replies. In doing my research came across a claim that Anistel had an ingredient in it, which was a possible carcinogenic?? Has anyone else seen that, however it was on Medichems website (who i think produced Anigene?)

Re: disinfectants

Katie Newport — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:47:29 GMT

we have tried safe4 really like it and seems effective - used it before at pdsa

Re: disinfectants

Alison Clare Hickman — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:11:28 GMT

So, you'll guess my next question... anyone used/using F10 products and, if so, what do you think?

Ali h

Re: disinfectants

Linda Muller — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:07:05 GMT

Misleading claims is a very real problem - the basic problem is that disinfectants in the UK are unregulated in terms of their efficacy and safety. It also means that there are no compliance regulations which would strictly limit what claims can be made in the market place - anyone can say what they want - and they do. The absence of these regulations leads to claims being made that have not been independently assessed i.e.manufacturers can create their own labels and promotional supporting data - it is up to the end user to try and validate these. Not all doom & gloom, though! I'd like to point out that the F10 Practice Hygiene and Infection Control product range is now readily available in the UK (many of you working in the exotics sector may know, and love, the products). F10 Products are registered in many countries (EPA in the US, which is probably the most demanding regulatory regime in the world) and are market leaders in South Africa and Australia. Safety first! Check it out www.f10products.co.uk

Re: disinfectants

Sal the 1st — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:11:10 GMT

we are using anistel - yes I had noticed you need double the amount of anigene. We initially bought anigene by mistake as the two names are so similar - having already decided that we would not be using anigene a) because I have no interest in a company whose primary sales pitch was to diss a competitors product and b) because trigene was a product I was happy with.

Its a real turnoff for me when I hear that sort of thing to be honest. A good product sells on its merits not on the amount of 'dirt' (no pun intended) you can dish out on a competitor. - its not just this company, so they have no need to feel I am singling them out, I have similar issues with genetrix and bayer and probably a few more if I think back. Just saying it as I see it

Have also heard about the viracare product - and will not be using it because of the above reason

Re: disinfectants

Julie-Anne Wilson — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:53:13 GMT

I thought Anistel dilution rates were the same? When I was changing our dilution sheet for the prep room, the numbers were basically the same for Anistel as they were for Trigene. Anigene, on the other hand, was basically double.

Re: disinfectants

Susan Jackson — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:41:49 GMT

Has anyone noticed that the dilutions are different? I was doing what I used to do to fill up the hand sprays then went to read the packet and realised my dilutions were wrong. I'm sure I had been doing it right at one point so wondered if anyone else had thought they had changed?

Re: disinfectants

caz vn1 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:48:34 GMT

we use anistel as above. also comes in nice apple scent lovely!

Re: disinfectants

Julie-Anne Wilson — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:14:31 GMT

We use Anistel - it's basically Trigene but with a new name.