Problem with late wages

Re: Problem with late wages

Gemma Preston — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:02:28 GMT

No not if you're leaving tomorrow. They should ensure all payments are made up to date unless you signed something when you gave notice for agreement of late wages.

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Roseann21 — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:06:22 GMT

Hurrah! Well done!

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Dippy — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:01:20 GMT

Yay - the nagging paid off and I am all paid up to date as of today!

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Dippy — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:34:06 GMT

They asked me for a photocopy of the letter from HMRC which I scanned and emailed and they confirmed was fine, had the date on it etc. Will wait and see whether my latest email gets a response...

Re: Problem with late wages

r-more — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:19:01 GMT

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I also have a saved email which I sent to my boss on 9th March, advising her that the tax office had issued an incorrect tax code and two days later had issued the correct one, after I phoned them to see what was going on. I deliberately sent this to my boss in plenty of time so that this situation wouldn't happen but it looks like the email either got overlooked by my boss or if it did get forwarded, overlooked by the accountant when doing the wages. Have sent another email today asking when it will be rectified - I'd at least like an answer ot the question, even if I do have to wait!

[/quote] Have you checked that HMRC have sent a code notification to your employer? Your employer can only use the code notified to them by HMRC. R

Re: Problem with late wages

Amanda — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:06:11 GMT

Thats a bummer! I would advise taking to the bvna or even try citizans advice to be 100% sure. Good Luck, I certainly hope you get wots owed to you.[quote user="Dippy"]

Hi all,

I'm just after a bit of advice as I've looked on google and have found varying answers, none of them 100% specific to my problem.

I was issued with a new tax code for the current tax year and unfortunately, my employer's accountant used the wrong code. I was therefore underpaid by about £40 at the end of April. I sorted this out with the accountant, gave her a copy of the letter I had received from HMRC as proof of the new tax code and promised I would get the outstanding in my next pay, at the end of May. I wasn't thrilled as I only work part time so £40 makes quite a difference to my take home pay but I just went with it. Last week, when we got paid for May, the same incorrect tax code had been used and I was down the same amount again. I emailed my boss and my payslip got adjusted (correctly and including April's underpayment) later the same day, so I can't complain about nothing being done. However, as I am now down nearly £80, plus I am owed last week's expenses of around another £80 (last week was my final week in this job as I start a new one tomorrow), I am desperate for my money. I'm secretly quite p'd off that the April amount has already spent an extra month sitting in my boss's bank account rather than mine although I haven't said that to her.

My question is, can they legally make me wait until the next time she is doing wages (ie end of June) to pay me what they owe, in which case, part of it will be two whole months late, or can I insist on getting it sooner? I don't think there's anything malicious here and am sure I will get it eventually as the wages have always been a bit erratic in terms of exact pay date etc but I'm just desperate to get my hands on the now outstanding £160 (or thereabouts) asap!!!

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Re: Problem with late wages

Dippy — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:35:40 GMT

Re: Problem with late wages

r-more — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:22:39 GMT

Hi Tracy You're right it isn't always the case, rebates and bills usually occur because someone has had the wrong tax code all tax year or mistakes have been made with no action taken to sort it, tax code wasn't corrected until after the tax year etc. Being on maternity leave (or less pay for any reason) shouldn't be too much of a factor. Basically, when tax is calculated the calculation looks at: a) how much you have earned in the current tax year, b) how much (according to your tax code) of your earnings should have been tax free and c) the amount of tax you have paid on these earnings and how much tax you should have paid. As an example; if you earned £5,000 and should have paid £1,000 tax but actually paid £1,200, when the tax code gets sorted the £200 over payment should reduce the next pays tax. Problems can also occur when people don't have one of these cumulative codes and have what is called a week one/month one code - these only look at the individual weeks/months pay but tax rates and allowances are based on annual amounts. I actually got under taxed in April because our payroll over increased the tax codes for the new tax year, I noticed this and raised a query. When payroll was run for May the tax increased slightly in the month to compensate, this month it was back to what it should have been in the first place. I don't work in a clinical role anymore and have worked on payroll for a previous employer including dealing with code issues and HMRC, we had some one once who's tax went negative for a couple of months (she was being paid tax back) due to a problem with her code. R

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Dippy — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:22:42 GMT

It's just so bloody frustrating as the tax office issued the correct code, my employer just didn't use it!!!

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F1chick — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:03:51 GMT

Beacsue I have a second PT job, I am getting walloped for tax as a locum. I don't expect to see this until they assess I'm not a millionaire secretly

Re: Problem with late wages

Tracy Windler RVN — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:30:23 GMT

I don't think that can always be the case, otherwise people would never get tax bills or rebates and I've had both! Also, my tax code has changed recently, but now I'm on maternity leave, so I will be taxed on less "pay", so that will not equate to the same amount. So whatever they are apying me back, I will get less of it??? But then, I'm sat at home and being paid for it (for the first time in my life!!) so I won't complain too much!

I think Princess is right, that it will be resolved at the end of the tax year. If it was before April this year, it could probably be resolved now, but in my experience, you have to hassle Inland Revenue, as they won't be in a hurry to refund any money.

Re: Problem with late wages

r-more — Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:56:23 GMT

Hi The money won't be sat in your bosses bank account, they would have paid it over to HMRC. Most tax codes are what is called cumulative, that is too say the calculation of your tax (if any) is based on earnings throughout the tax year, so the calculation constantly corrects itself for any under or over payments. In short, if you have over paid tax (or ever underpay) due to a wrong code then once the correct code is applied the tax calculation will be such that the amount owed to you is added back in - this will apply even if you change employers. NR

Re: Problem with late wages

Dippy — Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:58:29 GMT

No, I wasn't locuming, in fact I wasn't even nursing (although I am an RVN and it was an animal related role). It was a permanent job, it's just that i happen to have finished last week to start a new job. I shouldn't have been taxed at all as I work part time and don't earn enough to pay tax, which my correct tax code refelcts, but my employer had an incorrect tax code so has deducted the tax for the two months. Thanks for the replies - I'm still looking into it.....

Re: Problem with late wages

Roseann21 — Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:04:31 GMT

It didn't sound to me like the OP was locumming - I may be wrong. I would just ask your boss and if you don't get any joy, I agree - BVNA legal line is the way forward.

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Sal the 1st — Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:19:21 GMT

yes I have been refunded at the end of a tax year before when locumming - its nice when you get it.

Re: Problem with late wages

Louise B — Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:58:02 GMT

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[quote user="Princess Ophelia Hermione MacBeth"] I think you may have to wait until the end of the tax year [/quote]

Er.. so that would be April 2013? Sounds unlikely.

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But an ongoing problem for locum nurses that go PAYE for lots of short term jobs. I often got tax rebates at the end of the financial year because I had too much tax taken from me during a locum!

Was actually really nice - especially getting a cheque for £800 one year :)

Re: Problem with late wages

Roseann21 — Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:41:21 GMT

[quote user="Princess Ophelia Hermione MacBeth"] I think you may have to wait until the end of the tax year [/quote]

Er.. so that would be April 2013? Sounds unlikely.

Re: Problem with late wages

F1chick — Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:52:47 GMT

I'm like a broken record, but I'd call BVnA legal line

Re: Problem with late wages

Louise B — Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:52:37 GMT

Not sure but I think you may have to wait until the end of the tax year and then Inland Revenue will refund you. Hope that isn't the case for your sake!