No Pain Relief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: No Pain Relief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gillian Mostyn — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:29:50 GMT

No probs.

I notice your profile has suddenly become anonymous though....

Re: No Pain Relief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hannah Nash — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:51:18 GMT

Hi Gillian Thank you very much for your concern much appriciated! But ive spoken to vet who is lovely and has even said he doesnt really no either and to ask a younger vet who may shine a light on it!

Re: No Pain Relief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gillian Mostyn — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:25:27 GMT

Hannah - some friendly advice. Although your concern is admirable, and something I would share, I would be cautious of posting on a public forum in this way. You could be seen as being openly critical of your boss. Some bosses may take this well, others would see it as insubordination and it could be a disciplinary offence.

In future I would post more general questions which will get the answers you want without making reference to other people's opinions, especially your boss!

Re: No Pain Relief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Hedberg — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:14:35 GMT

Any animal that goes lame is lame because of pain or discomfort. How does "dealing with it" make it any less painful? (Ok, I know an abomasum isn't lameness, but I've had a bellyache and it wasn't fun!)

Re: No Pain Relief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jill Macdonald — Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:54:18 GMT

I'm not sure on the analgesia protocols with cow surgery, or what the general consensus is amongst farm vets, but just did a quick Google on this, and this article http://canadianveterinarians.net/SpeakerNotes2011/HTML/bovine/bovine_Constable_04_NEW_DEVELOPMENTS.html suggests that NSAIDS can be used to improve abomasal hypomotility (although this doesn't seem very conclusive) and also for PAIN RELIEF! I presume the vet in question uses regional anaesthesia to perform the surgery (!) so maybe he/she figures that this is enough? The fact that cows are laid back doesn't seem like a good enough reason does it?.. If we just look at how rabbits deal with pain (ie hide it) .. we all know that 'how' an animal deals with pain doesn't mean we shouldn't do all we can to prevent/treat it.. What do the other nurses/vets at the practice think? Is this standard protocol, or is it just this vet that doesn't use post-op NSAIDS?