drug catergories please help confused

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Laura James — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:50:31 GMT

Morphine, Methadone and Fentanyl are Schedule 2 and therefore have to be signed out

Vetergesic is Schedule 3 and doesn't have to be signed out

Ketamine is Schedule 4 (part 1) and although it doesn't legally have to be signed out, the RCVS recommends it is kept in a dangerous drugs cupboard and that it is recorded.

Re: drug catergories please help confused

wilkoannie — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:20:45 GMT

Our practice dosnt, we only have a register for ketamine as we don't have morphine. I suppose it's how your individual practice works but it's not a requirement to register it or sign it in or out like ketamine and morphine. We use vetergesic a lot I hope it dosnt come to that or I will be forever and a day writing on consent forms, register book, HoSP form and clients records and the amount of cases we see that could be one persons job alone lol xx

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Sophie Bedford RVN CertVNECC — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:41:56 GMT

[quote user="Catherine Raymond"]yeah vetergesics a funny one because it is a CD but doesnt have to be signed out, although I think most practices do this anyway[/quote]

We don't record our Vetergesic and we had a Tier 2 inspection recently and were not told to. It's just that a lot of practices lock it away in the DD cupboard but there is no requirement to record it's usage as far as we were advised.

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Catherine Raymond — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:38:08 GMT

[quote user="sazzle RVN"]

yeah vetergesics a funny one because it is a CD but doesnt have to be signed out, although I think most practices do this anyway.

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That's interesting - are we supposed to treat it like Ketamine and Morphine?

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Emma Bartlett — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:24:48 GMT

http://www.bsava.com/Advice/BSAVAGuidetotheUseofVeterinaryMedicines/tabid/294/Default.aspx

this may help

Emma

Re: drug catergories please help confused

wilkoannie — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:18:30 GMT

Thank you everyone! It makes sense now! I have a list of drugs and definitions. Xxx

Re: drug catergories please help confused

bongo — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:11:14 GMT

yeah vetergesics a funny one because it is a CD but doesnt have to be signed out, although I think most practices do this anyway.

Re: drug catergories please help confused

wilkoannie — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:23:37 GMT

Thank you all This what I have come up with! Correct me if I have anything wrong Avm gsl Dronsit, lectade, kaogel and apparently now program which is no longer a pom Pom vps Imaverol, strongid p, ivomec and equalan Nfa vps Drontal, frontline and panucur Pom-v Isoflo, vetergesic, and amoxycare and lots more? What do you think of vetergesic? It comes under cd schedule 3 to so I think this is correct as long as students know how it is stored. Thanks for all your help guys. It's been a long time since I went through this and it's typical they spring it on me to teach on Monday?? Xxx

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Phrin Vernon RVN — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:07:36 GMT

[quote user="Catherine Raymond"]

If you type NFA-VPS into the noah compendium search box, it will give you a list of all the NFA-VPS products on the site

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I was just about to suggest this. I seem to remember my tutor saying that most POM-VPS are large animal. However Panacur 2.5% solution and dermisol are both POM-VPS

List of POM-VPS

NFA-VPS is more SA based - drontal, frontline etc

List of NFA-VPS

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Catherine Raymond — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:52:51 GMT

If you type NFA-VPS into the noah compendium search box, it will give you a list of all the NFA-VPS products on the site

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Catherine Raymond — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:51:32 GMT

Drontal / Frontline Spot On and the Panacur Granules/paste/oral suspension are all NFA-VPS too

Re: drug catergories please help confused

wilkoannie — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:21:45 GMT

Yes it is yeh! Thank you so much! That's a good example to use? Thank you xx

Re: drug catergories please help confused

bongo — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:14:01 GMT

correct me if I am wrong but isn't an example of an NFA-VPS drontal?

Re: drug catergories please help confused

wilkoannie — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:03:38 GMT

Thanks Katie that's great. Your a massive help to me! If you have an example of a nfa vps in your handbook could you let me know? How is your training going? Sounds like your going to be a fab nurse xx

Re: drug catergories please help confused

wilkoannie — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:50:31 GMT

Thanks for that link it gives a good explanation of the drugs, I just need a few examples of what drugs go under what category. Pom-vps as above looks like frontline etc as Katie explained so just need an example of a nfa vps? I wonder if this will be sheep workers etc. Thanks for help xx

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Rob Watkins — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:15:08 GMT

Check out http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/Compendium/Overview/-42802.html

This explains the categories and is the online compendium for veterinary medicines.

Rob

Re: drug catergories please help confused

Katie Mansfield — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:52:14 GMT

According to my pharmacy handout POM-VPS refers to drugs that can only be prescribed / sold by a vet / pharmacist / SQP, so in theory I guess that relates to flea prevention eg Frontline, wormers, eg Drontal + and that kind of thing.

My understanding - I may be wrong, see what the others think

K x