Am i being cruel? =(

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Fleabee99 — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:08:43 GMT

recieving hugs very graciously thank you so much for your support

dont worry i wouldnt go cuddling a wild one but id prolly start baby-talking to it calling it cute!! lol but that just me i do love my rats!! i went to a zoo on tuesday and they had giant jumping rats which were the size of a full grown rabbit, i seriously considered stealing one lol if only!!

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Saskia Quinn — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:03:30 GMT

Thank you Sarah! And the same goes for you, if I can be of any help whatsoever, never hesitate to pm me, anytime!

I wouldnt consider pet rats as vermin though I would be quite afraid of the wild/outside ones who may get into your house etc etc!! But thats just me!

A quote I heard once, and I always remember it - A spider's life (or any animal/insect) is important to the spider, no matter what value a human places on it.

Regarding the vet and a pea size, I would say to him/her pfftttt. You know your girl better than anyone, hence you will know when the time comes.

Sending you hugs

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Fleabee99 — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:55:09 GMT

i just read all that and nearly cried!! she is my world and i really dont want to say good bye yet i just wanted a nurses point of view as a vet told me when it was the size of a pea that she should be put down straight away like she was contagious or something at this moment in time she has just awoke from a nap on my bed and is scurrying her moist bum around my bed looking for a cuddle with someone lol (she has her own towel to scurry on btw and moistness is due to it being in her lady bits )

i was following your post on rosie aswell really made me feel better that someone else had to same views as mine i.e. still herself when her needs are properly seen to, so i hope you know that i understand and i am here for you if you need someone to talk to as i get very attached to my pets even if they are considered vermin bless them so if you need a shoulder just message me =) if you have msn just ask and il give you my email

i am glad that someone else sees that she still has a right too be here as i really have a problem with owners who put animals down who could still have a bit more time if medically treated and cared for properly, just because theyve become an inconvienceto them doesnt mean they have a right to take their life!! ive even seen a man ask for euthanasia on a kitten because it had broken its leg and he didnt want to "shell out 400 for his step-daughter pet" i was outraged!! thats where my signiture came from lol

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Saskia Quinn — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:41:26 GMT

Hi Sarah, I had been following your previous post about little ratty. From memory it has grown quickly in a short space of time. However, the fact that she is able to eat and drink and go about her business scurrying around should be a good sign

I am in a similar situation with Rosie, if you have read my 'time to call it a day?' thread. I would safely say though, that little ratty will let you know when the time comes. She isnt able to stand in the part of the cage when she wants attention - BUT she IS able to sit there wanting attention!!! She is still in the frame of mind to know that she wants to play and have cuddles etc. To me, she sounds like a happy wee madam!!

When it gets to the point she goes off her food, no longer sitting in her fav spot demanding attention, then that will be the day when she makes the decision for you.

I know its very hard Sarah, definitely heartwrenching at times, in the meantime, you spend quality time with your girl and give her lots of love and affection for what time she may or may not have left.

Good luck, you are not being cruel. Keep us updated please.

Paula xxx

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Fleabee99 — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:24:23 GMT

thank you so much for the reassurance, shes had little tumours since the age of two (as all the sisters did) but has coped with them well as i was advised not to remove them as she was too old for an operation, the reason for the prolapse is thought to be a mammory tumour near her leg pushing on the uterus forcing it out, but the pertruding uterus appeared about 3 weeks ago at the size of a pea, so actually thinking about it it has grown rather quickly so she might not have long bless her

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Maisy — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:15:55 GMT

I think reading back from your post, I would be the same as you in that it doesn't sound as though she's ready for PTS yet. Has she had the tumour for long? Unfortunately I'd imagine that when the time is right that you will notice a sudden deterioration in behaviour and eating habits, it's like with most smaller pets. Its not easy knowing that they're poorly but keep her as comfortable as you can over time.

Good Luck

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Fleabee99 — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:46:47 GMT

thank you for replying, my oh has known them all throughout and he just keeps saying shes fine, he says she scurries around at night when im asleep (as he doesnt get to sleep til quite late when he stays over) so i dont think its the time yet

im just finding it hard because her 2 sisters didnt need the decision making they needed to be PTS so thats why this is upsetting me [:'(] by having to make such a decision i feel like i am killing her [:'(] i just wanted reassurance that i am not doing to wrong thing by keeping her going

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Maisy — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:38:20 GMT

She's your pet, you know her best and will know when the time has come. It's always going to be a difficult decision to make but the questions to ask yourself are is the quality of life still there? Is her illness affecting behaviour/mobility? As little ratty is still eating and wanting attention etc these are positive signs, however as you know what she is usually like you will know when the changes are affecting her overall.

Do you have anyone else at home who knows your rats? Sometimes it helps to get another viewpoint from someone who can see her and see of any changes.

Re: Am i being cruel? =(

Fleabee99 — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:31:06 GMT

come on guys i am really worried about this [:'(]