https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/f/nonclinical-discussions/15740/cystocentesis Can nurses (Quailified or Students) perform cystocentesis?? Following a discussion with my colleague we were unsure where we stand on the whole &#39;entering a body cavity&#39; thing. The VS we work with is a little old fashioned, not seen him do one inen-USTelligent Community 10https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/123323?ContentTypeID=1Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:33:55 GMT1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:2745cb71-4cf7-4543-800b-a64c999122ecCatherine Goulding<p>Whilst employed at a vet university, we used to teach vet students how to do cysto&#39;s (and did them ourselves whenever they were on holiday), we also used to place jugular catheters and arterial lines.&nbsp; This was over 10 years ago and I&#39;m not sure if they still do it now.&nbsp; At another uni one of the nurses used to do epidurals but I know that is not allowed anymore.&nbsp; </p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/123318?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:54:45 GMT1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:bb9b6594-b125-4b0a-bce9-fd53e1d94e8fJulie-Anne Wilson<p>I&#39;ve been asked to do it many times but I don&#39;t feel comfortable doing it so I tell the Vet that and he does it himself.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/123316?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:30:55 GMT1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:99e987a6-7355-485c-8515-bf7827f1a556SmegSlayer<p>i think i was told at college that it was one of those famous RCVS grey areas:</p> <p>We are not allowed to do it as it is entering a body cavity but we are expected to be able to do it in a first aid situation</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/123295?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:50:28 GMT1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:30871b7c-e68f-47e2-99f8-a5d7192f48deClairebear<p>Completely agree with you, just wanted to clarify.</p> <p>Thanks&nbsp;to all for replying!</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/123289?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:30:13 GMT1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:cf6efaa6-a32d-4113-96eb-519c8cecbf0aSteph Worsley<p>I think it&#39;s one of those grey areas that the RCVS need to clarify, I have seen plenty done and I can tell a vet student the best way to do it but unless it is clarified and then I&#39;m directly supervised for the first few times I wouldn&#39;t be happy doing it.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/123284?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:11:27 GMT1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:bbd4e4a5-9344-403b-b28d-5b63571516c5Gillian Mostyn<p>hahaha -&nbsp; we wrote our replies at the same time but I see that we agree.....</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/123283?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:10:23 GMT1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:bc946cce-8b4d-4680-bfbf-3161a3202620Gillian Mostyn<p>I would say no, and wouldn&#39;t allow my own VNs to do this.&nbsp; </p> <p>The sentence which is always worth remembering (under F10in the GtoPC ) is:</p> <p>When a veterinary nurse is negligent the liability is likely to rest with the<br />directing veterinary surgeon.</p> <p>Going into a body cavity with a needle should be reserved for those who can then go on to deal with the consequences if a problem is encountered. (Which can happen in the most experienced hands.)</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://www.vetnurse.co.uk/thread/123281?ContentTypeID=1Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:08:11 GMT1a0763ec-3885-442c-853e-6cef656dfec5:470fc99e-7806-4f0f-8e0e-7b76c6636313Fuzzyduck<p>I never have done in the 12 years i have been in practice and have never seen a nurse do it either.</p> <p>Im not sure of the legalities but i dont think i would be happy for myself to do it, you never know what else you could hit if you dont know what your doing very well and could cause damage to the animal.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>