Renalzin?

Re: Renalzin?

Charlotte says smile — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:53:37 GMT

I find that k/d tinned is quite popular and most cats like that.

have also used renalzin on a few patients and some didnt mind it at all and others like fi has said wouldnt go near it!

Re: Renalzin?

Fiona Leathers — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:55:59 GMT

You can use cerenia off licence in cats that are vomiting (same dose for dogs 0.1ml/kg) & I did this with Blossom just to try to make her feel better & to try to get her eating again, I also gave her antepsin befoe any other meds or food to see if that helped.

Watch out ureamic (sp?) lesions in the mouth or the really nasty sweet smell, which usually mean the lesions are in the guts, which makes them feel really shitty. Once the lesions are in the mouth then its times to call it a day, they feel awful & look awful, so it niver to euthanise.

Re: Renalzin?

Royalsuper_fairy — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:31:43 GMT

Thanks for all your advice, cat has gone down hill and has now started vomitting alot, and client is reluctant to continue trying the renal food.

Re: Renalzin?

Fiona Leathers — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:58:51 GMT

Feeling a bit of a specialist on feline renal supplements & food, firstly cos of Blossom & now cos of Sonny!!

I feed Blossom RCW Renal Special - slightly tastier diet but not best for long term - when she first became ill then moved over to the normal Renal diet. She wouldn't touch any of the wet varieties of any food including KD or RCW renal.

I tried her with different phosphate binders in her diet including

Ipakatine (OK if syringed but wouldn't touch over food),
Renalzin (wouldn't touch either way - became a spitting horror if we went near her with it - Bayer rep still doesn't believe me as "its not got a taste or smell" tell that to the cat!!)
Maalox - best for binding phosphate but would only take if syringed or off spoon & then she drooled for about 5 minutes after.

Now Sonny is in renal failure & have tried him with RCW & Hills food - he won't touch any of them - and Sonny is not a fussy cat (he was 9kg at one point) We've just tried him on the Purina renal diet (can't remember its initials) and he's loving it.

I agree with Caro though, changing food slowly is certainly best and do not feed Brand A when they are ill, if you want to continue with Brand A - they develop food adversions and stick to those adversions!!

Thats the good point with RCW Renal special - its very tasty and then there's another one if you need to change.

Re: Renalzin?

Caro Laithwaite VN — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:17:45 GMT

You are better sticking to one food take the change over a lot slower. Mix a little into a lot of old food over a longer period allowing him to adjust. Swoping around will not encourage him to swop.

Cats stick to one food because in the wild it is safest to eat what you know. The more you swop the more he knows he is safest sticking to what he knows.

The mouse may vary with individual mice but it is still basically the same. To him you are trying to slide something toxic in and pull his mouse away, so you need to flavour the mouse gradually.

Re: Renalzin?

Royalsuper_fairy — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:57:31 GMT

Am going to try on the other diets have tried all three flavours of the RCW so Kd is next

Re: Renalzin?

Steph Worsley — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:54:13 GMT

Hi you can get:

RCW (royal canin) Renal chicken, beef or dry

Hills KD tins, pouches and dry

Purina nd tins and dry

Leo specific trays

renalzin is NOT a replacement for diet it is a supplement so ideally you would have the diet and the renalzin, only really started using it at work recently found so far am with holding my opinion!

If the cat doesnt want to eat the wet then try the dry and try with a water fountain to encourage water intake.

Re: Renalzin?

Royalsuper_fairy — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:52:53 GMT

Well i'd be interested in hearing the results when people get some.

Re: Renalzin?

Emma Clark — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:48:12 GMT

We have only just started using renalzin, we have 3 cats that have recently started on it so we're waiting to see if there are any decent results or not.

Re: Renalzin?

Royalsuper_fairy — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:37:54 GMT

I've not even heard of that

Re: Renalzin?

Saskia Quinn — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:32:07 GMT

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Specific is leo food, we have a dog on the dry form but unsure what cat food is like.

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That was it, Specific!! Just couldnt think of the company name!

Re: Renalzin?

Royalsuper_fairy — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:31:59 GMT

Well this cat does not like any of of the RCW Renal flavours so going to try on kd but am not getting my hopes up with kd.

Re: Renalzin?

katy coleman — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:28:49 GMT

hills K/D now comes in the pouches which does look a lot better and is generally tolerated better. They still have the tins but does not look as appetising as the pouches.

Specific is leo food, we have a dog on the dry form but unsure what cat food is like.

waltham (royal canin) do the renal pouches which come in beef or chicken and most cats seem to like this too.

Re: Renalzin?

Royalsuper_fairy — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:27:37 GMT

Thanks will have a look!

Re: Renalzin?

Saskia Quinn — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:23:50 GMT

I think the K/D now comes in a mincemeat form to make it more appetising for the cats. I think there is another one called Renal s/o from Royal Canin??? Correct me if I am wrong. Another company (can't remember name) had a renal diet called 'specific' or something to that effect and it came in small foil square pouches. Good luck!

Re: Renalzin?

Royalsuper_fairy — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:21:33 GMT

Am about to try kd and then the purina. But trying to cover all bases

Re: Renalzin?

Saskia Quinn — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:18:56 GMT

Not familiar with Renalzin, sorry. Though I'm sure Hills are bound to have a renal diet? What about k/d?