changing from veterinary to nhs

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Nick Shackleton — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:01:52 GMT

http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=255

this gives you an over view on the job

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

albatross — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:42:38 GMT

http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.cgi?selection=912598026

here's an odp job vacancy on the nhs jobs website.
Obviously you need to be qualified, but it will give you an idea of salary, and the requirements for the job

http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.cgi?selection=912595456

here's a tsw job advert for night work - tempted to apply for it myself

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Phrin Vernon RVN — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:05:52 GMT

This is a really interesting thread, as the ODP is something I've always had my eye on for the future....

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

albatross — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:21:49 GMT

one girl at work has young children and was off to do the ODP via work, but it meant such a drop in salary that she's had to quit work and do the course alone, with a bursary.
Another girl who started recently (september) on the degree course came along to theatre today - and as a recent TSW I found I know loads more than her which was interesting to find out.
I'd like to do the ODP, and probably via the OU course so they don't have to release me from work as we're so short staffed, that I'm doing overtime just to cover all the parts of the TSW job that I'm experienced enough to do after 11 months. But I will probably have to drop down from my HND (2/3 degree) to the replacement NVQ 2 year course first.

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Nick Shackleton — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:45:37 GMT

what you try[quote user="Katy"]

No way fancy the degree! I'm 32 Nick! And couldn't afford the student fees and cba with 4 years at uni!!!

The only thing that is putting me off going for an ODP diploma is that we might not be able to pay the bills and stuff if i'm relying on a bursary. Gutted

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What you trying to say katy! I'm 31 and will be 33 once I complete FdSc and plan to go on to do full radiogaphy degree!

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Catherine Goulding — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:43:01 GMT

I have been reliably informed that everyone on the course gets the bursary and its non means tested - with it being tax free you can work evenings / weekends up to the tax threashold and not have to pay any tax - so in theory, youcould be far better off than you are now.... Just a thought

But, having said all of that, its a mute point anyway as the ODP diploma is changing into a degree from September.

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Katy — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:35:37 GMT

No way fancy the degree! I'm 32 Nick! And couldn't afford the student fees and cba with 4 years at uni!!!

The only thing that is putting me off going for an ODP diploma is that we might not be able to pay the bills and stuff if i'm relying on a bursary. Gutted

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Catherine Goulding — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 07:15:52 GMT

Edge Hill University at Ormskirk / Manchester would probably be nearer - the bursary is £6,701 per year which is tax free and you are a student so no council tax to pay, plus other student perks for 3 years (it is 2 years in other parts of the country)

The other way to do it would be to be employed as a theatre support worker and then get the hospital to sponsor you but apparently but there is no guarantee when they would sponsor you and they also have a waiting list of internal people wanting to do the course. As I said earlier, there are approx 8 people for every course place which includes internal applicants, so you might get a job as a TSW and not be able to train for 8 years or so as other people were in the 'queue' before you.

http://www.edgehill.ac.uk/study/courses/operating-department-practice#details

http://www.codp.org.uk/faq.php

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Nick Shackleton — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:21:45 GMT

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Thanks Nick

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No problemo. Don't fancy the pharmacy degree then???

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Katy — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:01:28 GMT

Thanks Nick

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Nick Shackleton — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:31:00 GMT

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If you can give me any info at all about the ODP course and how to apply for it, diverdippy, I would be really grateful!

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Up the road from you Katy at Preston (UCLan)

http://www.uclan.ac.uk/information/courses/diphe_operating_department_practice.php

And then if you happen to get a job as a Theatre Support Worker with a trust that would support you through ODP training the Open university offer flexible learning via distance learning

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Katy — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:38:15 GMT

If you can give me any info at all about the ODP course and how to apply for it, diverdippy, I would be really grateful!

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Catherine Goulding — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:06:07 GMT

The ODP Diploma is a 3 year course in the North West where I am based and its changing to degree from September 2012. Apparently the course is extremely popular and there are always approx 8 applicants per place available!

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Nick Shackleton — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:37:35 GMT

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Have you considered doing the 3 year ODP Diploma course? It is bursary funded and all fees are paid by the NHS as there is a national shortage and they are trying to increae their numbers. Some of my diving friends are ODPs so I know quite a bit about the course.

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ODP diploma is only 2 years

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From 2012 its changing to degree and I'm pretty sure its going to become a three year course, thats what my learning and development coordinator told me a few weeks back. They are also changing the entry requirements, you can't use the portfolio route anymore. Don't hold me to that though, it'll probably change again within the next few months!

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much like nursing then. my mate was the last intack of the Dip HE Adult Nursing

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Jessica Scaife — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:35:44 GMT

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ODP diploma is only 2 years

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Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Nick Shackleton — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:26:57 GMT

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not all ODP courses are 3 years some are two depending where you study!

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Jessica Scaife — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:45:18 GMT

I'm the opposite, working in the operating department at the moment but desperately want to change to veterinary nursing. I could do the ODP training and have actually already done a bit of nurse training but I just don't enjoy it enough to stick at it. I know the NHS has good career progression but I just can't shake the feeling that I should be working with animals, don't get me wrong, I love nursing I'm just currently nursing the wrong species.

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Nick Shackleton — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:32:45 GMT

I am the same as Kate althou a few years behind and a fan of diagnostics and not therapy radiography. I look at doing the radiography degree full time, but currently can't afford to support myself on the 5k bursary that would be offered to me. Instead I'm working/training as an Assistant Practitioner (radiography). I start uni next month for 2yrs one day a week and end up with a Foundation Degree. I should be able to enter the 2nd yr of the full degree. Hopefully by that time there will be more fundign available/support for mature students for me to qualify as a radiographer.

Do miss my furry patients but really enjoying the challenge that has come with my job.

The main reason for making the step out of veterinary practice was the lack of progression available to myself

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Catherine Goulding — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:04:35 GMT

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Katy — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:08:46 GMT

I'm due to qualify as a Pharmacy Technician later this year!

I miss the animals and the owners, but that's about it!!!

Love working in a hospital and love learning new things. I am considering switching to becoming an ODP if any suitable positions come up!

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

albatross — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:53:20 GMT

Laura I have 6 O levels, 2 A levels, the stupid key skills maths I was forced to take by a VNAC because they didnt accept the recent HND or the ancient O and A levels, and an HND in Animal Management.
You need NO nursing skills to become an ODP. I don't want to be a human nurse on the wards (animals I am happy to spend hours with, but not humans lol) so you can take a Healthcare Assistant 2 year new version of the NVQ, or the Peri Operative version which we're waiting for it to come out as they're lagging behind the VN world of revaming the NVQ replacements.
With an ODP qualification (either at college or via the new OU course which I'd like to do), you can specialise in anaesthetics, scrub, recovery or just general ODP work. You work alongside qualified nurses sometimes but also directly with qualififed registered surgeons and anaesthetists.
Have a look on the NHSJobs website and look for theatre support workers which is the lowest entry point and which is my current job position, and I got it due to my experience in veterinary operating theatres rather than any qualifications.

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

laurad — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:04:07 GMT

just interested. have you any other quals or just the vn that took you into your nhs career? and what sort of nursing are you doing in the nhs before you move to ODP. the ODP is something iv had my eye on for a while

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

Kate Claxton DipAVN(Med)VN — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 18:16:06 GMT

I'm full-time NHS - came off the VN Register nearly a year ago now as I wasn't going to do enough locum work to justify the costs of keeping my name on the List. I also do a lot of on-call/overtime in my NHS job so don't have the time for VN work any more!

Miss the animals and my old colleagues, but still absolutely love my new job so no regrets at all. :)

Re: changing from veterinary to nhs

albatross — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 19:40:00 GMT

like several others on here I do both.
I would still love to do Vet nursing full time, but there's no places to train students any more, so it looks like my dream has gone.
I still wokr part time in a charity vet clinic which I love.
However I've also got really involved in my job in the operating theatres for the NHS - and if they offer me the chance to do the ODP (Operating Department Practitioner) course first then unfortunately that will be the end of my vet nursing career.
I want to progress as high as possible in whatever career I specialise in, and curently there's no way I can become a QVN......

sad, but unfortunately the changes to the training have made it totally impossible to get a job locally