Uncaring vets

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Sarah-Jane Simpson RVN CC MBVNA — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:32:59 GMT

Im lucky to say ive not worked with a vet like that but if i did i wouldnot be able to keep my mouth shut!!

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violet — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:48:36 GMT

i worked for a vet like this, except i think he was more useless than uncaring, plus he was sole vet in the practice which made it scarier. i got so depressed watching cases die that didnt need to, feeling i had to scour my brain for treatment options to suggest, even down to simple things like IVFT. final straw came when a dog i had seen many times during its short life for 2nd vaccs, puppy parties, came in and died from v+d. i just couldnt cope with it anymore. he pulled me up as i was so angry, and i think he wanted to save face. i told him he was the worst vet i had ever worked with and found a new job. i shudder to know he is still practicing, and the owners of that dog think he did all he could to save it. how do these people even qualify? i dont feel that i was too critical or un-supporting, infact i feel i was totally un-supported as i really cared and tried my best and he was just playing at a role that was above him.

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Sal the 1st — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:11:51 GMT

yes that is what I was driving at - things are not always that clear cut. Things could be so much better if if vet and nurse could support each others skills rather than picking at each others faults, I can see how the situation could be equally frustrating for both sides

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Selena Carnell — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:04:20 GMT

If he is the sole vet, then I can understand how stressful this would be, not only has he got the management to worry about but the takings, the nurses, the patients, the bank manager etc etc.

Sometimes you can get snowed under and forget why you entered this sort of proffesion, and lose enthusiasm.. i've seen excellent vets and nurses just stop caring, but not through any fault of there own.

How many nurses to vets are there? maybe you could take the initiative and start protocols, to help and support him.

Difficult to now what to suggest, if this isnt always the case, also he maybe limited in what the client can afford rather than what he could do, and if he is on his own then he has no collegue to discuss cases.

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Kim Buckley — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:51:53 GMT

[quote user="Sal (the 1st) Holesworth VN CMH Chyp (M)PNLP"]

I agree with you I couldnt work for somebody like that either and btw my comments were not directed towards you. So why did I make the comment? because I am fed up of vets calling nurses and nurses calling vets. Surely this sort of thing can be sorted out in the practice how about settling differences rather than highlighting them

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Point taken and sorry I got so defensive.

If I was in this situation then I would like to think that I could confront the vet and explain the problems I was having but it can be difficult to talk to people when you think they are in the wrong. Especially if they are your boss. That is probably why these sort of posts come up.

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Sal the 1st — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:43:13 GMT

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Tracey Louise — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:39:11 GMT

I used to work for a vet like that!

I had to leave, it was too upsetting to just stand there and watch animals suffer, or pass away when there is something that could have been done.

But sal has a point, we dont know the full story and at least the vet listens to the nurses. My vet would not have listened or even done anything suggested by a nurse.

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Kim Buckley — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:24:15 GMT

[quote user="Sal (the 1st) Holesworth VN CMH Chyp (M)PNLP"]

[quote user="Kim Blowing RVN"]

How is giving my opinion judgemental?

I couldn't work with a vet who wasn't giving the best care to their patients.

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you have assumed that my comments were directed towards you and you have also assumed that the 'vet wasnt giving the best care to their patients' - how do you know this?

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Because I have put my opinion and it's the same as other people who have posted.

And with regards to the care thing urmm because Loopy Lass has posted that the vet isn't giving good care to all his patients?? Why does everything on here have to be twisted?? All I said was that if things were as she has suggested, I couldn't work for someone like that and surely that is a good thing?

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Sal the 1st — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:16:30 GMT

[quote user="Kim Blowing RVN"]

How is giving my opinion judgemental?

I couldn't work with a vet who wasn't giving the best care to their patients.

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you have assumed that my comments were directed towards you and you have also assumed that the 'vet wasnt giving the best care to their patients' - how do you know this?

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Phrin Vernon RVN — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:08:02 GMT

[quote user="Kim Blowing RVN"]

How is giving my opinion judgemental?

I couldn't work with a vet who wasn't giving the best care to their patients.

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I have to say I agree with you Kim.

The majority of vets and nurses are in it for 110% the right reason, but there will always be bad apples in any walk of life, and if you have been unlucky enough to work with, or for one, it can be a very demoralisisng and frustrating experience.

No, we don't know the full story, and there may indeed be other factors going on, but if the animals are not getting the best level of care that the VS and facilities can offer, then there is something wrong in my opnion.

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Kim Buckley — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:36:15 GMT

How is giving my opinion judgemental?

I couldn't work with a vet who wasn't giving the best care to their patients.

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Sal the 1st — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:24:15 GMT

well I think unless you are actually working in the practice and know exactly what is happening and the background behind the behaviour you should be careful about being too judgemental.

there is little wonder that there is so much agro between some nurses and some vets when you read this stuff. Everybody has a choice if it cant be sorted out within the practice in a reasonable way and if they dont like what they are doing they have the choice to find somewhere else.

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Fuzzyduck — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:24:45 GMT

Id leave and find a better vet to work for. I couldnt work for a vet like that

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Kim Buckley — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:53:53 GMT

I also couldn't work for a vet like that. It shouldn't be up to the nurses to suggest basic treatment. It would actually make me very angry.

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Goldilocks E — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:34:48 GMT

I may have made it sound like this is the norm, it isn't - it just happens every now and then with a few cases, but it really gets to me his lack of caring.

We do give pain relief, but sometimes he is funny about giving older patients pain relief (worried about kidneys etc), he does treat the patients, but kind of gets by doing the minimum he has to - which it then falls on the nurses to pick up the slack and make suggestions about things

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peanut4505 — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:39:59 GMT

Id have to leave, or report the vet or both! I'm very lucky my vet is the complete opposite and is very good about giving pain relief.

I just couldn't work for someone like that