sedalin advice needed

Re: sedalin advice needed

Caro Laithwaite VN — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:40:44 GMT

I would also find out the womans vet and speak to him/her about it. The woman should not be permitted ANY medication in future her bed she lies in it she proved she is dangerous. And make no mistake she IS dangerous as she doesn't know anything about the drug, how it works or why.

Her animals need anything she pays extra for a vet to administer it. Point out rules on POM would have affected him/her had your horse not recovered or anything happened to it.

I would also mention police as someone said POM and the law even if you don't call them in scare the bejeasus out of her.

Re: sedalin advice needed

laurad — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:12:03 GMT

yep going mad wasnt the half of it. thats exactly right i was mortified it is a sedative and that is exactly what il be saying to yard owner when she is back. my horse is fine now which is what everyone keeps telling me at the yard but it is not the point! anything couls of happened to her and it is a risk and that is what im sticking to when i speak to manager.

thank you for the support ladies. I knew i wasnt the only horse person that would have gone mad at this

Re: sedalin advice needed

Phrin Vernon RVN — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 22:54:17 GMT

I have had nothing to do with horses for a good 10 years plus, but I must admit that I would be livid if another owner had took it upon themselves to give my horse anything at all that I hadn't ok'd, let alone a whopping great dose of ACP! Which incidentally, if it works the same way as in smallies, doesn't make them less aware of the 'Scary Thing', just makes them less able to react to it - hence why we never give ACP for fireworks anymore at our practice.

Just a great big GRRRRRR at someone overdosing your horse on a POM-V without your consent!

Re: sedalin advice needed

Polly P — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 22:43:54 GMT

I bet you went mad, I would have! I worked on a lot of yards when I was younger and also kept our horses on a lot of different places as well as at home and I have never even heard of someone doing anything like that- you just don't do it, do you!

Even in an emergency I can't imagine even the actual yard owner would ever do something like that without contacting you first, the most I would expect would be that they'd call the vet in an emergency.

Is the owner going to speak to this woman?

Re: sedalin advice needed

marieeccles — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:55:10 GMT

Hey

I have had quite a lot to do with sedalin and owners and have had to explain a lot of times that giving more of the tube does not make your horse more sedated it only ever lasts for longer so that is probably why she took so long to get over it but thankfully that does seem to be the only side effect I have heard of in a healthy horse.

The other owner definately needs to be told that it is a real no go to give someone elses horse drugs no matter how much they think they are helping. We had one that was so allergic to bute he would actually collapse. Really not good. If you dont want to speak to the owner then ask the yard owner to I am sure that they will do that for you.

Hope she is all ok

Re: sedalin advice needed

Katy — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:21:17 GMT

OMG! That's dsgusting!

What if your mare had a heart condition???

I'd have had serious words with the owner, and I wouldn't have been very polite!!!

Glad she is ok.

If someone had done that to my horse they had better run!

Re: sedalin advice needed

Nicola Smith — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:12:51 GMT

I can feel for you here. My pony has serious issues which means her diet and medication has to be very tightly controled and I have ended up having to be downright rude to some people who dont get the message that its not on to mess with other peoples animals. Giving medication like that is a total no even though your horse was fine - wouldnt have done my pony much good with her heart condition!! At the end of the day its a POM and she shouldnt have done that. I would make my feelings very clear!

Re: sedalin advice needed

laurad — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 10:53:41 GMT

thanks for the posts last night. iv just got back from the yard and my mare is over it thank fully.

Re: sedalin advice needed

laurad — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:10:22 GMT

hiya,

she is just another owner, she had some left over from her horses treatment. The more i think about the more appauled I am. right i best get off to the yard to see my girl. and all the fuss i kicked up last night. Im not very good with confrontation but i never gave permisssion. end of story.

:) x

Re: sedalin advice needed

laurad — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:08:15 GMT

she hunted last season but all the other horses were staying in so i wasnt going to give her anything for it. iv spoken to the yard owner last night.. i think the lady in question was trying to help but i was at the yard at the time and i would never ever dream of going into someone elses stable and giving there animal a sedation.

i dont generally like creating a fuss, but said lady smacks my horse too (she told me) so that has been reported my poor mare has enough to deal with just being on box rest.

thanks for the reply

Re: sedalin advice needed

Polly P — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 23:42:02 GMT

Blimey, that's terrible! I hope you went mad!

Who was it who gave it? How did they come to be in possesion of it anyway?

Re: sedalin advice needed

BengalcatRVN — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:53:40 GMT

Does she normally freak out at the hunt? Seems silly that someone else medicated your horse without your permission. Make it clear it must not happen again, and they should call you before they do anything anyway. If it was my pet (and the same can be said for my lil sis and her pony) anyone "self medicates" them, they'd better run. Far away. And never come back.

There are only 2 vets who I trust, and only 1 gets the say on the medication to be given.

I'm every vet's worst nightmare.

Re: sedalin advice needed

laurad — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:33:47 GMT

omg thank you for the maths, am so annoyed she just went into my stable and gave it said the hunt was coming and she needed it :(

Re: sedalin advice needed

Gillian Mostyn — Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:26:26 GMT

I don't do horse work but from the Noah compendium:

sedalin comes in a 10ml tube with ACP at 35mg/ml

Dose is 0.15mg ACP/kg

Therefore your horse would want approx 80mg

Half a syringe is 175mg

Apparently for deep sedation you can go up to 1.5X that dose.

Your horse had over 2X the recommended dose.

I'd be having words with whoever administered it.

However, ACP is a relatively safe drug so I'm sure your horse will be fine.