rehoming strays and the law

Re: rehoming strays and the law

BengalcatRVN — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:34:31 GMT

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The problem is chips do move and not everyone checks properly, our practice policy is we re chip those that have moved as most owners are happy to be safer than sorry, this is also especially important for those pets with passports.

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Do you surgically remove the other chip? As sometimes having two chips confuses the reader and neither of them work. Also, how do you stand with Pet Passports, if both chips work and they could, potentially find 2 chip no's?

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I think you have to make it clear on the passport there are 2 chip numbers, and give 1 as a primary. The clinic I am at tomorrow has a note from DEFRA about this to their vet, i'm sure they won't mind me copying it! Will try and post it tomorrow, but you might have to wait till monday, as working 8.30-8.20pm tomorrow and 7.30-4.30pm sunday. Got 2 days off tho to recover!

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Tracy Windler RVN — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:11:06 GMT

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Re: rehoming strays and the law

peanut4505 — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 10:38:33 GMT

Re: rehoming strays and the law

peanut4505 — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 10:35:29 GMT

Hmmmm. Think you need to read the other posts/what other people have said too.

Yes I think there should be education for people taking on cats with diseases. Even things like vaccinations dn't get kept up either as some of the owners that get the animals cannot afford it! Does that come down to the fact that you have to be at home all day, not have children etc?? to be able to take on an animal.

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Nicola Smith — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 08:26:09 GMT

Only thing I would like to say is that I think sometimes people take on FIV cats not fully realising what the disease is. I think it must be clearly stressed the importance of them being indoors - we have had clients take on these cats and still let them out even though they have been told not to as they just assume its ok as the cat stays close to home.

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Ian_M — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 22:51:25 GMT

Strange, your above post doesn't seem to match "same story with most charities" which you used earlier.

Never mind.

Re: rehoming strays and the law

peanut4505 — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:14:34 GMT

Firstly let me apologise if my comment has upset you, also thank you for your invitation of looking round.

Im sure the main centres are fine, especially as members of the public looking round, unfortunately I know it's not the fact for some the foster carer's, im not labeling everyone ofcourse! Im afraid I have seen some appaling conditions in 11 yrs of being in practice. We do have rescue charities we are involved with, who provide an outstanding level of care to the animals they take in. But unfortunately I have dealt with the ones that are not too.....

Re: rehoming strays and the law

BengalcatRVN — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 11:05:27 GMT

I never thought of signing things in and out, the only time I had was when we had a chipped cat, I had the original owners sign her over to me, and then signed the cat to the new owner, mostly only for the chip companies benefit. (she'd been missing for months, old owners had moved, had new kittens and felt the cat disliked them anyway, they agreed to help the new owner elderly pensioner by paying half the vets fees for the amputation the cat required. The cat is so much better with his elderly owner!)

I will have to make something up for future rehomes. Thanks for the advice!

All our kittens have been rehomed now :)

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Ian_M — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 09:06:57 GMT

To the earlier posts about CP:

CP's policy is that we do rehome known healthy FIV positive cats as indoor only pets, to informed owners, which we know from experience can continue to enjoy a good quality of life without clinical signs, for considerable periods of time.

We would not home such cats if we felt the indoor-only clause was not conducive to the welfare of that cat, this is guided case by case by the veterinary profession as every CP cat should undergo examination by a vet at least once during its care. We do not however rehome FeLVs. Our policies are guided by our own internal veterinary specialists, our academic research postholders at three vet schools, and our trustees which include a leading professor of feline medicine.

CP is the largest rehomer of cats in the UK, homing almost 60,000 cats a year. Of the ADCH charities (the overview group of large and small animal charities in the UK) we constitute around 25% of all animals (and around 40-50% of all cats) homed in the UK.

@the poster who works at Newdigate Veterinary Group.... if you are referring to our main site at Chelwood Gate, it may interest you to know this is the largest rescue cattery in Europe and is also the charity's national resource for cats transferred from other locations which may have been involved in rescue or cruelty cases, hoarding etc. It is therefore natural that there will be a small numer of contagious disease cases. The same is also true to a lesser extent of all the CP sites and also our branches. We are a rescue charity and deal with the cats and problems that other either refuse to, or in many cases don't even know exist.

Rescue charities are by no means "all the same, full of chlamydia and flu", I know as I have worked with them for over 15 years; and I am sure there are many, many healthy rescue cats you may have treated in your practice (some which you may not even know were rescue cats) which do not and have not had such conditions.

If you would like to contact me I can arrange for you to have a look round our site and hopefully this will provide you with a bit more first hand knowldege and guide you before you make further misleading comments on professional forums. I can also provide you details of our Minimum Veterinary Standards which apply to all cats in our care. My email is ian.macfarlaine@cats.org.uk

To the OP - there is no legal set period for retaining strays except dogs, at CP we recommend 14 days as a good guideline for anything, based on our experiences in the past, and make sure evrything you take in is signed into and out of your care by the finder and adopter.

Re: rehoming strays and the law

christinam — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:49:43 GMT

You are legal owners after 7 days, but can not change chip details unitl day 30.

Although as a recent rehoming "take this dog please", would love to here from legal channels please??!! What happens if owner comes home from holiday or similar??

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Vicky RVN — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:51:49 GMT

Poor owners That's a bloody big c*ck up!

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Nicola Smith — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:46:31 GMT

Our local kennels rehomes after a week. Very sad story a few months ago -dog warden collected stray dog scanned for chip and there was one but for some reason - wires crossed between staff I believe - owner never contacted and dog rehomed. Owners had even phoned the kennels to reports the dog lost but then only found out the dog was there over a week later - too late! People decided to let the new owners keep the dog as it had settled with them and were just grateful they knew what had happened to it. Made me mad - why do we even bother chipping.

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Doolally — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:19:07 GMT

I was talking to the dog warden the other day and he said they've got a dog in who is so vicious they have to move him with a dog-grabber to clean his kennel (poor dog must be terrified ) he said they'll keep him for a week and them have him PTS if no owner comes forwards

Re: rehoming strays and the law

FINNIGAN — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:06:10 GMT

we had a stray labrador found on side of road hit by car, many injuries etc was with us for a week, dog warden came and took pictures of her and placed on thier website and lost dog websites, i also put posters up where she was found, we think she was dumped , then hit by a car, very underweight and obviously been ill treated, i decided to give her a home after nursing her for the time she was in, the dog warden said after 7 days if no one came forward she was mine, i had to sign some paperwork and then she was legally mine, he said if anyone came forward after this time, it was up to me wether i gave her back!! no one did, but i must say i was shocked that its only 7 days, if one of mine went missing god forbid, then someone else could legally own them after just 7 days!!!

Re: rehoming strays and the law

xhappysvn21x — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:50:45 GMT

it would be interesting to know what a dog's pound rules are because they must receive loads? i no it is 60-80quid to get a dog back but after how long??

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Yvette Patton RVN MBVNA — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:53:45 GMT

I seem to remember when my neighbour found a stray Jack Russell, she informed the Dog Warden who said if it went to a re-homing centre it could be re-homed in 7 days, but if the person who found it is willing to look after it or wants to re-home themselves, it can only be done after 28 days.

Not sure on the ruling with cats though.

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Mrs Dot Dot — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:54:05 GMT

We also do our best to trace the O's... just started advertising on our website/ put posters up in practice and on doors/ post on the National Pet Register.... we also have a pretty good record of rehoming.

Forgot also to mention that we took in a very pregnant female and her boyfriend/brother about 7 wks ago who produced 5 kittens 2 wks later and one of the vets took these and we are in the process of rehoming all........................

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Mrs Dot Dot — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:50:01 GMT

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My friend took a stray cat to her local vet practice to get it scanned for a microchip......she was told by the receptionist to put it back where she found it !!!!!!

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Yup - we got told that too.. but it was a kitten roughly about 12wks old!! there was no way we were going to tell the client to take him back 'where he found him!".. so we kept him in the kennela and rehomed him ourselfs - he now lives with one of the nurses aunties :)

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If they are young / old / injured/ ill/ rabbit / small pet / dog then we Obviously don't do that! At the moment we have a male tabby that had open injuries to his hocks when he came in... he's been in 4-5 wks........a really sweet blind, old, stinky breath, awful teeth, even awfuller (excuse the spelling!) flea dermititis skin with 2ndry infn tabby(we think!) DSH..... initially really really scard when she came in because of being blind but now loves her cage, loves her bed, loves us, loves her food- eating like a pig and purrs constantly. We have only had her since Monday... assuming she has been abandoned because of her skin.. the O's house must be heaving with fleas! and also a rabbit which we've had for 3-4 wks.

My point being that we only have 6 cat cages, 6 dog cages and some collapsable/ spare cages and some lager cat voyagers so we are limited with space.... CPL/ WGAS/ RSPCA / most other rehoming places are choccablock at the moment and aren't taking in anything and we can't just keep taking all and sundry in because we would run out of space! So we take what we can and have to deal with the rest in the best way that we think

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Mrs Dot Dot — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:28:00 GMT

[quote user="Emma Bartlett"]

My friend took a stray cat to her local vet practice to get it scanned for a microchip......she was told by the receptionist to put it back where she found it !!!!!!

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I've said that a few times recently as well, especially if they have not been around for very long, have no m'chip, look v healthy... ask them to put a paper collar on them with a contact phone number, advertise locally... in shops, on lamposts etc... always say that to contact us again if still around in a week or so.

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Steph Phillips — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:27:51 GMT

[quote user="Emma Bartlett"]

My friend took a stray cat to her local vet practice to get it scanned for a microchip......she was told by the receptionist to put it back where she found it !!!!!!

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Re: rehoming strays and the law

Emma Bartlett — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:08:26 GMT

My friend took a stray cat to her local vet practice to get it scanned for a microchip......she was told by the receptionist to put it back where she found it !!!!!!

Re: rehoming strays and the law

peanut4505 — Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:59:29 GMT

Yep couldn't agree more, always have problems with Chlamydia and FIP too! Same story with most charity's

Re: rehoming strays and the law

Saskia Quinn — Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:50:28 GMT

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but, as far as CPL are concerned, I am led to believe they never have room for a 'healthy stray cat' as they are always full of the felv/fiv cats which they keep indefinitely, refusing to pts???

I know any time I have called, asking for their help - they have never had the space.

Re: rehoming strays and the law

shelly jefferies — Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:15:19 GMT

We normally hang onto things for 7-14 days depending on whether been hanging around somewhere for days and days, however our local cp have been full as well as rspca being full. Tried to put a cat on RSPCA waiting list the other day we had had the cat for only couple of days and the person that bought the cat in was keen to have her. RSPCA told us that there was a long waiting list probably 6-8 weeks and if this lady wanted the cat to let her have her straight away before she lost interest!!

Re: rehoming strays and the law

monkeybrains13 — Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:17:55 GMT

i think its different for cats than dogs, our policy (which we work very closely with the cat protection league) is that we have to keep the stray cat for 7 days then it can be rehomed