Fleas!

Re: Fleas!

Sophie — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:10:58 GMT

I'll have to revise that one!

Re: Fleas!

Vanessa Butler — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:08:17 GMT

The pupal stage of the fleas life-cycle can prove troublesome as there is no chemical agent which will kill the developing adult which is within the spun cocoon. Burning the carpets is perhaps a little too drastic in an attempt to kill the pupal stage.

The pupae need to be stimulated to hatch to adults so that this stage can be killed. Vibrations eg vacuuming, carbon dioxide (from expiration of humans/animals), warm temperatures and high humidity stimulate these creatures to hatch and so the adulticide agents in the house spray can then kill the immature adult fleas as they hatch eg permethrin. The last couple of weeks have been perfect for pupal hatching with the rain and warm temperatures. Approximately 10% of the total flea poulation in an infestation is in the pupal stage so they certainly need to be addressed.

Post Indorex spraying we advsie that daily vacuuming is performed for 7 days so that the dormant pupae can be stimulated to hatch and then killed by the adulticide (permethrin, in environment and active for 8 weeks). The pyripoxyfen attacks the juvenile stages (eggs and larvae) and has a duration of activity of 1 year.

Unfortunately it's that time of year again but with correct advice and compliance the fight against these critters can be won!

Field Veterinary Advisor

Virbac UK

Re: Fleas!

Sophie — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:14:40 GMT

Thanx for all the replies guys! Many clients at first were applying shop products (bob martin), then flea shampoos and collars, sprays for the house. No luck! So now they come running to us, to get frontline, which still hasn't done the trick? We sell indorex spray for the environment and have moved from frontline to effipro x

Re: Fleas!

Jenny Cook RVN — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:19:38 GMT

The main spot ons we stock are advocate and frontline and F/Combo. We used to stock stronghold but no longer anymore as we moved to advocate, if clients want stronghold though we will order it for them.

We stock RIP spray, smells abit like surface polisher. We had a genitrix rep in while ago, said can be used on spiders too. Clients seem to like the diea of it lasting for upto 12 months and still have some left in the can.

Re: Fleas!

bumble bee — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:38:58 GMT

We are selling loads of flea stuff. Problem with most of our clients is they dont treat their homes so pets keep reinfesting . Also they use alot of supermarket stuff!!! arrrgh! We use advocate/frontline & acclaim household spray .

Re: Fleas!

Claire Cameron — Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:43:12 GMT

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I always recommend Genitrix RIP spray! not only does it kill adult fleas, but flea eggs, larvae, and dust mites too! .. and the effects last up to 12 months..

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Anything with 6-8 legs I was told, so great for spidro's too!

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Reaaaally??? wel thats good to know cause I throw a fit if I see a spider!! lol

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haha pleased I'm not the only one!

There was an enormous spider in our porch the other day.

I swear he had kneecaps and had shoes on. My boyfriend moved him and put him away and I'm sure I could hear his footsteps as he walked away he was HUGE

Re: Fleas!

Steph Phillips — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:38:44 GMT

[quote user="Rachel Jayne RVN C-SQP MBVNA"]

[quote user="*Steph *"]

I always recommend Genitrix RIP spray! not only does it kill adult fleas, but flea eggs, larvae, and dust mites too! .. and the effects last up to 12 months..

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Anything with 6-8 legs I was told, so great for spidro's too!

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Reaaaally??? wel thats good to know cause I throw a fit if I see a spider!! lol

Re: Fleas!

Claire Cameron — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:33:33 GMT

[quote user="Rachel Jayne RVN C-SQP MBVNA"]Anything with 6-8 legs I was told, so great for spidro's too![/quote]

Yup, I keep a can in the house for the tarantulas

Re: Fleas!

Rachel Jayne — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:54:17 GMT

[quote user="*Steph *"]

I always recommend Genitrix RIP spray! not only does it kill adult fleas, but flea eggs, larvae, and dust mites too! .. and the effects last up to 12 months..

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Anything with 6-8 legs I was told, so great for spidro's too!

Re: Fleas!

BengalcatRVN — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:50:14 GMT

it smells nice too!

Re: Fleas!

Steph Phillips — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:44:42 GMT

I always recommend Genitrix RIP spray! not only does it kill adult fleas, but flea eggs, larvae, and dust mites too! .. and the effects last up to 12 months..

Re: Fleas!

Claire Cameron — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:20:42 GMT

Environmental treatment? Indorex or the like?

Ensure they're sticking to the manufacturer's guidelines strictly

Re: Fleas!

Susan Jackson — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:41:50 GMT

It's that time of year when people are starting to put onthe heating.

Usually i explain to clients that it's the life cycle of the flea. I believe the pupae can lay dorment for up to 18months until conditions are right. I think there is ONLY ONE household spray that can actually kill these. Indorex as far as i know doesn't. O have to wait until all have hatched and drank blood to be killed!

How many owners are honest," i apply my flea treatment on time every month" - of course you do thats why you got fleas!

Re: Fleas!

Rachel Jayne — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:37:12 GMT

I'm sure there's some resistance to frontline starting to come through nowadays...

Have been involved in a few cases where the complaint has gone through Merial & even they couldn't justify why it hadn't worked.....

It has been around for a long time now.

My pooch has always had Stronghold (even though he's a Collie mix).

Re: Fleas!

BengalcatRVN — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:06:10 GMT

You could create a flow chart or do different life stages to show what animal and age should get what. With a quick guide as to why. I used to have two, one for our petshop reception area (as we can't advertise drugs to non clients) and one detail what drug int he consult room. Def helped! and was a visual guide to the client

Re: Fleas!

Sally Seddon — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:13:04 GMT

Ive taken about 10 calls this week from people who have de-flead their pet and it hasnt worked. After a bit of a chat i discovered that they had all been using the lovely bob martin spot on

We have stopped selling frontline and have moved to effipro, we also sell about 5 other flea treatments. It can get so confusing sometimes, im not the best at remembering the facts about each product.

Re: Fleas!

Phrin Vernon RVN — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 02:04:55 GMT

I've read on some pet forums that owners are having problems with frontline, and that they feel it just isn't doing the job anymore.

However, I have never had a client say this to me. We stock a range of spot ons at work - frontline, advantage, advocate and effipro are the main ones, and I try and help the clients to come to an informed decision as to which product is right for them and their pet. We advise environmental control too, and stock indorex for this.

I had a flea infestation a few months ago and used f/line on the cats, advocate on the pooch, and a liberal spraying on indorex on the house, which worked really well.

I'm not sure what else you can advise your clients - are they definatley using the products correctly? ie onto the skin and not on the fur? Sometimes with very fluffy critters I will clip a teeny patch on the back of the neck to ensure the treatment is applied to the skin, as it can be really hard otherwise!

You could also try phoning your flea tx reps and get their take on things perhaps?

Re: Fleas!

SmegSlayer — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:25:08 GMT

we started having this last year and changed from frontline to advocate- has made a huge difference