Dogs and nectarine stones - TOXIC?

Re: Dogs and nectarine stones - TOXIC?

Vicky RVN — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:08:22 GMT

Hehe Sal that made me chuckle!

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Sal the 1st — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:03:53 GMT

This is scarey stuff! I made a batch of peach jam(conserve) a couple of weeks ago - using the recipe from Mrs Beetons that I have used for almost 30years. The scarey bit is that is asks you to split some of the stones and use the seed inside the stone in the jam because it helps it set (and yes it does help it set I have tried it without and it was horrible and runny same with the grapefruit marmalade I crushed a few pips and dropped them in when bringing the fruit up to heat - I fish most of the 'bits' out but couldnt swear to removing everything . and the really really scarey bit was that these 2 dozen jars of peach conserve and a half dozen of grapefriut marmalade were going to be sold at the 1940's weekend in a month or so time. I could of bumped off half the village! Even Harold Shipman only did them one at a time

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Vicky RVN — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:04:45 GMT

[quote user="Kerry Haigh RVN A1 Cert SAN MBVNA"]

They make real scrumpy cider with whole apples (pips and all) So if you ever see anyone who has quaffed the stuff a lot they will be displaying some pretty weired neuro signs due to the toxic nature of the booze!! Temporary blindness can also happen due to the cyanide ingestion... think I'll stick to bitter

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Like this stuff Kerry???

Had to buy it on holiday cos of the name! Mum didn't drink hers cos she said it smelt and tasted like cow dung?! Not tried cow dung myself, but like scrumpy so maybe i'd like it?!

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Polly P — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 04:01:55 GMT

I used to like splitting and eating the insides of apple seeds when I was a teenager... Faintly almond-y and bitter flavoured. Now I know why!

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Kerry Spain — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:56:04 GMT

Re: Dogs and nectarine stones - TOXIC?

Alexander Campbell — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:03:19 GMT

HI all

Nectarines are species Prunus Persica. Like most species of the prunus family they contain toxic substances called cyanogenic glycosides. These are usually concentrated in the pips or stones.

Cyanogenic glycoside broken down by an enzyme to produce cyanohydrin and ultimately hydrogen cyanide. In intact plant material the glycosides are separated from the enzyme, but if the stones etc are ground, chewed, crushed etc then the enzyme can act. It it therefore really only when dogs and cats decide to really have a good chew and manage to break open the seeds or pips, or if they ingest fermented / rotten fruits that toxicity is likely to occur.

I'll make a note to cover this in our next VPIS newsletter.

Cheers

Alex

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Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:26:27 GMT

Just to update you: Wesley is absolutely fine

Good for him: no sign of anything being wrong

Not so good for me: looking like a complete psychotic OTT nurse...... I have since been wound up with claims that Wesley is eating chocolate, grapes and chicken bones!

Re: Dogs and nectarine stones - TOXIC?

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:07:08 GMT

[quote user="Caro Laithwaite VN MBVNA"]

I would guess like a lot of the fruit stones non toxix unless chewed/crushed as they are in fruit and do not affect the fruit.

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yeah it's the little bean/nut/seed inside the husk that is the toxic bit. They would have to chew it or have it stuck inside them for a while to digest or break down to actually get any of the poison. I imagine if it was eaten whole and not broken that i would just pass or cause a blockage with out poisoning.

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Caro Laithwaite VN — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:03:06 GMT

I would guess like a lot of the fruit stones non toxix unless chewed/crushed as they are in fruit and do not affect the fruit.

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Kate Claxton DipAVN(Med)VN — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:04:33 GMT

If it's any reassurance, my Mum's collie cross once snaffled one on the sneaky - one visit to the vets later we were told to just to let it pass through but to keep the dog under obs for vomiting etc, it passed through uneventfully. x

Re: Dogs and nectarine stones - TOXIC?

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:52:11 GMT

Yep, said about a blockage.....still no luck in getting him to call vet!

frustrating!!!

Thanks everyone!

Re: Dogs and nectarine stones - TOXIC?

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:51:12 GMT

My friend thinks his flatcoat X may have eaten one - despite telling him to call vet, thinks he will be fine.............

Not 100% sure he did eat it as little trouble maker ran out into the garden with it and now it's nowhere to be seen. Personally, I'd rather him take it to vets just in case he does turn toxic...but then again he is a big dog....small stone..........

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Hannah25uk — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:47:32 GMT

Yes nectarine stones do contain cyanide along with most of fruit stones (apples,peaches, cherries) etc, don't know how many they would need to ingest to cause toxicity though depends on size of dog i suppose. Have you tried VPIS? Also in cause it hasn't been considered an intestinal blockage would be a major concern.

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Anonymous — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:41:21 GMT

read here http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_peach_pits_poisonous

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Anonymous — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:39:11 GMT

i believe nectarine, peach and raw almond stones, cherries and apple seeds are as well all toxic as far as i know. they have traces of cyanide in them. possibly one of the raw nuts too lik walnut or something? can't remember